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> The UK people think it is moderately difficult; its actually pretty easy It's not too difficult, but it's not quick (and that's ok). Outside of gross miscond

> The UK people think it is moderately difficult; its actually pretty easy It's not too difficult, but it's not quick (and that's ok). Outside of gross misconduct, you have to go through multiple stages of explaining the issue, coming up with a performance improvement plan and then evidence that they haven't met it.

wing-_-nuts 5y ago
In the case of pretending to be someone else, I'd say this is the very definition of gross misconduct.
- rkangel 5y ago
  Absolutely. I'd have also thought it was criminal fraud. My comment was meant to be about the general case of firing people in the UK.
- randomswede 5y ago
  In the case of pretending to be someone else, and being found out on the first day, at least both UK and Sweden would have the probationary period exception, whereby you can be let go at a moment's notice (works both ways, either party can annul the contract). The probationary period usually lasts 3 months. Pretty much the ONLY thing that is not a "go" during the probationary period is due to various things that fall in protected categories. I have a hard time thinking "I let someone else do my interview for me" falls under that, in almost every case.
Traster 5y ago
This is actually less true than you think, unless you fire someone for something egregious (Pregnancy, joining a union), they only have a right to challenge whether it was fair if they've been at the company for 2 years. So up until 2 years of employment, whilst there are rules about fair dismissals, the employee can't actually go to a tribunal and enforce those rules, making them basically optional.
- blitzar 5y ago
  To make matters worse, there is a maximum payout anyway, so short of actually writing something totally stupid on the dismisal letter the employer is not going to have many problems. The maximum amount that you can be awarded as compensation for constructive dismissal is presently the statutory cap of £89,493 or 52 weeks gross salary- whichever is the lower

wing-_-nuts 5y ago

In the case of pretending to be someone else, I'd say this is the very definition of gross misconduct.

rkangel 5y ago
Absolutely. I'd have also thought it was criminal fraud. My comment was meant to be about the general case of firing people in the UK.
randomswede 5y ago
In the case of pretending to be someone else, and being found out on the first day, at least both UK and Sweden would have the probationary period exception, whereby you can be let go at a moment's notice (works both ways, either party can annul the contract). The probationary period usually lasts 3 months. Pretty much the ONLY thing that is not a "go" during the probationary period is due to various things that fall in protected categories. I have a hard time thinking "I let someone else do my interview for me" falls under that, in almost every case.

Traster 5y ago

This is actually less true than you think, unless you fire someone for something egregious (Pregnancy, joining a union), they only have a right to challenge whether it was fair if they've been at the company for 2 years. So up until 2 years of employment, whilst there are rules about fair dismissals, the employee can't actually go to a tribunal and enforce those rules, making them basically optional.

blitzar 5y ago
To make matters worse, there is a maximum payout anyway, so short of actually writing something totally stupid on the dismisal letter the employer is not going to have many problems. The maximum amount that you can be awarded as compensation for constructive dismissal is presently the statutory cap of £89,493 or 52 weeks gross salary- whichever is the lower