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Not that the trucker protestors are right, but watching the Right and Left do a complete 180 and copy/paste each others' comments from the 2020 BLM protests is

by causi 5y ago

Not that the trucker protestors are right, but watching the Right and Left do a complete 180 and copy/paste each others' comments from the 2020 BLM protests is either the funniest or the saddest thing I've ever seen. It seems more and more that people only pretend to have principals so long as they can use them to advocate for their own side.

pinephoneguy 5y ago
These people are moderate libertarians, not the right. If it was the right and if they were copy/pasting from BLM it would be a violent White supremacy movement. That's just not going to happen.
kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
Maybe it's the difference between protesting and rioting? Did the truckers burn stuff down and loot shops?
- bluetonium 5y ago
  If we're being honest with ourselves blocking major trade routes has at least as much economic impact, though it's harder to see/measure.
  - kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
    I don't think they can simply block the trade routes - surely people can route around it. In any case they protest against not being allowed into the country with their trucks, so either way the trucks wouldn't be running?
    - EForEndeavour 5y ago
      "They" just blocked The Ambassador Bridge for six days. This bridge transports 25% of the value of all Canada-US trade, coming out to roughly $360 million (presumably USD) per day: https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/truckers-ambassador-bridge-perfect-spot-threaten-us-canada-trade-2022-02-11/ https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/truckers-ambassador-b... The Ambassador Bridge links Detroit to Windsor across the Detroit River at the southern tip of the Ontario Peninsula. The closest US-Canada land crossing is the Blue Water Bridge between Sarnia, ON and Port Huron, MI, 2 hours' drive north.
      - kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
        At least it can be rerouted. I don't know - I am not well versed in "protesting philosophy". The economic damage seems less serious, after all, the truckers could also just decide to not come to Canada to begin with. It is the mandates that make it difficult to enter that do most of the damage.
- causi 5y ago
  There are alleged photos of a group of them trying to set fire to an apartment complex but I'm not putting a ton of stock into those claims until they're substantiated.
Chris2048 5y ago
Unless "the right" are posting snippets from or inspired socialist manifestos, I doubt this is the case. Many of the more disruptive BLM activists/activities wanted to change society generally - this convoy is more targeted than that.

by causi 5y ago

pinephoneguy 5y ago

These people are moderate libertarians, not the right. If it was the right and if they were copy/pasting from BLM it would be a violent White supremacy movement. That's just not going to happen.

kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago

Maybe it's the difference between protesting and rioting? Did the truckers burn stuff down and loot shops?

bluetonium 5y ago
If we're being honest with ourselves blocking major trade routes has at least as much economic impact, though it's harder to see/measure.
- kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
  I don't think they can simply block the trade routes - surely people can route around it. In any case they protest against not being allowed into the country with their trucks, so either way the trucks wouldn't be running?
  - EForEndeavour 5y ago
    "They" just blocked The Ambassador Bridge for six days. This bridge transports 25% of the value of all Canada-US trade, coming out to roughly $360 million (presumably USD) per day: https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/truckers-ambassador-bridge-perfect-spot-threaten-us-canada-trade-2022-02-11/ https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/truckers-ambassador-b... The Ambassador Bridge links Detroit to Windsor across the Detroit River at the southern tip of the Ontario Peninsula. The closest US-Canada land crossing is the Blue Water Bridge between Sarnia, ON and Port Huron, MI, 2 hours' drive north.
    - kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
      At least it can be rerouted. I don't know - I am not well versed in "protesting philosophy". The economic damage seems less serious, after all, the truckers could also just decide to not come to Canada to begin with. It is the mandates that make it difficult to enter that do most of the damage.
causi 5y ago
There are alleged photos of a group of them trying to set fire to an apartment complex but I'm not putting a ton of stock into those claims until they're substantiated.

Chris2048 5y ago

Unless "the right" are posting snippets from or inspired socialist manifestos, I doubt this is the case. Many of the more disruptive BLM activists/activities wanted to change society generally - this convoy is more targeted than that.