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So you suggest people to suffer just because it may supposedly damage Russia?

NicoJuicy 5y ago
I'm suggesting eu should promote more environmental friendly alternatives and be less dependant on Russia and use the current situation as one of the reasons for an extra push. We tried being dependant and it didn't work. We're already having the downsides from it. With the additional hope that we're pushing environmental friendly innovation in the EU. Like it or not. Do you have a better solution? They already shot airplanes and killed eu civilians. Recurring threats to check eu war responses, killed with Plutonium on our territory and killed thousands of Ukrainians since 2014. --- So I'm throwing a question back, since complaining is easy: "what would be the better solution according to you"?
- jesterson 5y ago
  > We tried being dependant and it didn't work. We're already having the downsides from it. May i know what downsides are you referring to? > Do you have a better solution? They already shot airplanes and killed eu civilians. Not sure who are you talking about here. Shot planes? Who shot planes? Killed eu civilians? Who? Who killed thousands of ukrainians? > what would be the better solution according to you"? Well, it depends on solution yo what we are looking for. Generally speaking I’d suggest EU to focus on internal issues instead of supporting colour revolutions (yeah, particularly the one happened in ukraine)
  - NicoJuicy 5y ago
    https://www.npr.org/2020/07/10/889953353/nearly-6-years-after-mh17-was-shot-down-dutch-prosecutors-say-they-will-sue-russ https://www.npr.org/2020/07/10/889953353/nearly-6-years-afte... https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1038914/ https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1038914/ Russia with an army near the border is an internal issue. All my examples are related to internal issues and literally at our border, with a partner. The country itselve is even literally asking for help. And if you're not aware of the gray zone conflict since 2014 and that thousands of people got killed on Ukrainian soil because of Russia. Then your should really start educating yourselves before your say anything further. No "suggestion" for a "better solution", just ignorance of facts that happened/are happening.
    - jesterson 5y ago
      Well, I had hoped not to live to the moment where we use movies as an argument in seemingly serious discussion. Hopefully "Home Alone" or "Die hard" didn't shape your picture of our world. > And if you're not aware of the gray zone conflict since 2014 and that thousands of people got killed on Ukrainian soil because of Russia. I'd suggest you to substantiate claims like that - "because of Russia". Not everyone is a product of propaganda and readily believe in anything without any evidence. > No "suggestion" for a "better solution", just ignorance of facts that happened/are happening. That's would be great if you bring up facts to support your claims instead of throwing patronising phrases about education.
      - NicoJuicy 5y ago
        It's a documentary... Perhaps you can learn something from it.
        jesterson 5y ago
        I assume you have nothing to say regarding other questions? As for the “documentary”, it has nearly same value as “russian invasion” scheduled on Feb 16 and perpetuated by all MSM. Sorry, I prefer other sources of information.
        NicoJuicy 5y ago
        For those other sources of information. I should remind you about the following: > The cheaper to produce, the cheaper to use it for propaganda. A video documentary with witnesses, CCTV footage, interviews and people identifiable as the researchers/KGB agents, documents tracing them, ... Makes perfect sense as source of information. Additionally, you should realize that the US releases information to deter Russian action. If it doesn't happen, the odds are in their favor that they actually succeeded ( we'll see, since they release satellite imagery regularly). As such, Satellite imagery backed claims of US > claims of Russia. You shouldn't fix that date as an absolute. It's a current best guess estimate. You should know this by simple logic reasoning, so I'm just stating the obvious here.

I'm suggesting eu should promote more environmental friendly alternatives and be less dependant on Russia and use the current situation as one of the reasons for an extra push. We tried being dependant and it didn't work. We're already having the downsides from it. With the additional hope that we're pushing environmental friendly innovation in the EU. Like it or not. Do you have a better solution? They already shot airplanes and killed eu civilians. Recurring threats to check eu war responses, killed with Plutonium on our territory and killed thousands of Ukrainians since 2014. --- So I'm throwing a question back, since complaining is easy: "what would be the better solution according to you"?

jesterson 5y ago
> We tried being dependant and it didn't work. We're already having the downsides from it. May i know what downsides are you referring to? > Do you have a better solution? They already shot airplanes and killed eu civilians. Not sure who are you talking about here. Shot planes? Who shot planes? Killed eu civilians? Who? Who killed thousands of ukrainians? > what would be the better solution according to you"? Well, it depends on solution yo what we are looking for. Generally speaking I’d suggest EU to focus on internal issues instead of supporting colour revolutions (yeah, particularly the one happened in ukraine)
- NicoJuicy 5y ago
  https://www.npr.org/2020/07/10/889953353/nearly-6-years-after-mh17-was-shot-down-dutch-prosecutors-say-they-will-sue-russ https://www.npr.org/2020/07/10/889953353/nearly-6-years-afte... https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1038914/ https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1038914/ Russia with an army near the border is an internal issue. All my examples are related to internal issues and literally at our border, with a partner. The country itselve is even literally asking for help. And if you're not aware of the gray zone conflict since 2014 and that thousands of people got killed on Ukrainian soil because of Russia. Then your should really start educating yourselves before your say anything further. No "suggestion" for a "better solution", just ignorance of facts that happened/are happening.
  - jesterson 5y ago
    Well, I had hoped not to live to the moment where we use movies as an argument in seemingly serious discussion. Hopefully "Home Alone" or "Die hard" didn't shape your picture of our world. > And if you're not aware of the gray zone conflict since 2014 and that thousands of people got killed on Ukrainian soil because of Russia. I'd suggest you to substantiate claims like that - "because of Russia". Not everyone is a product of propaganda and readily believe in anything without any evidence. > No "suggestion" for a "better solution", just ignorance of facts that happened/are happening. That's would be great if you bring up facts to support your claims instead of throwing patronising phrases about education.
    - NicoJuicy 5y ago
      It's a documentary... Perhaps you can learn something from it.
      - jesterson 5y ago
        I assume you have nothing to say regarding other questions? As for the “documentary”, it has nearly same value as “russian invasion” scheduled on Feb 16 and perpetuated by all MSM. Sorry, I prefer other sources of information.
        NicoJuicy 5y ago
        For those other sources of information. I should remind you about the following: > The cheaper to produce, the cheaper to use it for propaganda. A video documentary with witnesses, CCTV footage, interviews and people identifiable as the researchers/KGB agents, documents tracing them, ... Makes perfect sense as source of information. Additionally, you should realize that the US releases information to deter Russian action. If it doesn't happen, the odds are in their favor that they actually succeeded ( we'll see, since they release satellite imagery regularly). As such, Satellite imagery backed claims of US > claims of Russia. You shouldn't fix that date as an absolute. It's a current best guess estimate. You should know this by simple logic reasoning, so I'm just stating the obvious here.