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"There's good talent in Thailand as well. RIP my friend the Thai data/cloud principal eng banking 14k USD." Don't know from when this is but tech salaries in T

"There's good talent in Thailand as well. RIP my friend the Thai data/cloud principal eng banking 14k USD." Don't know from when this is but tech salaries in Thailand are much higher and it's hard to find people. This would be fresh grad level at most.

urthor 5y ago
Oh, I could be wrong on the number. It's extremely low though, certainly in the teens. As a person they're very opinionated about not working for a "product company." And have worked at the same company their entire tech career after bailing out of some traditional engineering discipline (I think 6 yoe?). Sweetest person ever. Never really followed up that conversation when I asked them if they were considering remote.
konschubert 5y ago
It's heartening to hear how remote work is helping to even out global wealth inequality.
- sebastiangraef 5y ago
  Plays some kind of role for sure but there are barely any local developer who work for a company abroad like it's common in Eastern Europe or other places (not counting foreign remote workers).
- jacobmischka 5y ago
  I wouldn't call "hire people from countries with low wages so you can pay them literally 1/10 of the US equivalent haha" heartening.
  - konschubert 5y ago
    What I am taking from your above thread is that what you are describing is no longer possible - because competition is pushing salaries up.
  - pettycashstash2 5y ago
    What are you talking about. IBM and other corporates defined the word outsourcing in the late 90s. I remember managing folks with 2 phds that were 1/2 if not less of my salary and I was fresh out of college. I watched as quality of folks went south over time as pay increased for them. My biggest frustration in the end was trying to train new person every 6 months because corporate wanted the same budget. They literally went from a 2 phd guy to barely out of coding shill within 2 year period. Market economies will sort this out.
    - jacobmischka 5y ago
      That perspective makes it seem like US workers are paid too highly, which I do agree with. But the parent comments I'm replying to are speaking from a leadership perspective and seem just overjoyed to be exploiting workers for nearly nothing. Edit: I reread my comment and I can see how I wasn't clear. I was actually replying to the parent of the comment I actually replied to, my mistake. I am glad the Thai wages increased, but GP was straight up flexing about paying people nearly nothing because they came from a poor country.
  - missedthecue 5y ago
    So it's better if there are no international buyers for their labor and they can only sell it to local employers for say $10k?

urthor 5y ago

Oh, I could be wrong on the number. It's extremely low though, certainly in the teens. As a person they're very opinionated about not working for a "product company." And have worked at the same company their entire tech career after bailing out of some traditional engineering discipline (I think 6 yoe?). Sweetest person ever. Never really followed up that conversation when I asked them if they were considering remote.

konschubert 5y ago

It's heartening to hear how remote work is helping to even out global wealth inequality.

sebastiangraef 5y ago
Plays some kind of role for sure but there are barely any local developer who work for a company abroad like it's common in Eastern Europe or other places (not counting foreign remote workers).
jacobmischka 5y ago
I wouldn't call "hire people from countries with low wages so you can pay them literally 1/10 of the US equivalent haha" heartening.
- konschubert 5y ago
  What I am taking from your above thread is that what you are describing is no longer possible - because competition is pushing salaries up.
- pettycashstash2 5y ago
  What are you talking about. IBM and other corporates defined the word outsourcing in the late 90s. I remember managing folks with 2 phds that were 1/2 if not less of my salary and I was fresh out of college. I watched as quality of folks went south over time as pay increased for them. My biggest frustration in the end was trying to train new person every 6 months because corporate wanted the same budget. They literally went from a 2 phd guy to barely out of coding shill within 2 year period. Market economies will sort this out.
  - jacobmischka 5y ago
    That perspective makes it seem like US workers are paid too highly, which I do agree with. But the parent comments I'm replying to are speaking from a leadership perspective and seem just overjoyed to be exploiting workers for nearly nothing. Edit: I reread my comment and I can see how I wasn't clear. I was actually replying to the parent of the comment I actually replied to, my mistake. I am glad the Thai wages increased, but GP was straight up flexing about paying people nearly nothing because they came from a poor country.
- missedthecue 5y ago
  So it's better if there are no international buyers for their labor and they can only sell it to local employers for say $10k?