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This is the real danger of the administrative state. Arresting you requires actual police officers to go out and physically do the act of arresting you. The bu

This is the real danger of the administrative state. Arresting you requires actual police officers to go out and physically do the act of arresting you. The bureaucratic state can freeze your bank account, revoke your license, and shut down your life, all remotely. And now they've set precedent for future protests. I don't know how anyone who considers themselves a liberal or Leftist can support this.

eloisius 5y ago
Exactly what's bothering me about this. I think you should get vaccinated. I think most of these truckers probably have very stupid reasons for not wanting to get vaccinated. But how can it not scare you to see the government wield power against demonstrations like this? Next time we're protesting an oil pipeline, what's to stop them from saying that these protests jeopardize Canada's energy security; It's disrupting critical infrastructure. They don't even have to arrest people anymore. Freeze your bank accounts, suspend your phone service, cancel your license. Without legal protections in our modern world, it wouldn't take a week for a government to turn you into a penniless vagrant.
- abledon 5y ago
  well, if some protestors are causing 50 million in lost business per day, its a cause for concern. US keeps their stuff local, built in USA, and Canadas economy and trade relations become weaker with its neighbour to the south
- justnotworthit 5y ago
  Truckers (in general, according to published data) are over 90% voluntarily vaccinated; that's more than the general population.
  - eloisius 5y ago
    Not sure what your point is. At least 90% of Canadians use fossil fuels. Next time there is a protest against an oil pipeline is it okay to freeze their bank accounts?
abandonliberty 5y ago
This isn't some person's bank account. These are foreign-funded terrorists. https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/anonymous-donations-to-convoy-as-high-as-215-000-concern-canadian-mps-1.5777497 https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/anonymous-donations-to-convoy-as-... Assuming both police force (as many minorities have experienced) and administrative force can be abused, is one worse for society or more susceptible to abuse?
- twoxproblematic 5y ago

eloisius 5y ago

Exactly what's bothering me about this. I think you should get vaccinated. I think most of these truckers probably have very stupid reasons for not wanting to get vaccinated. But how can it not scare you to see the government wield power against demonstrations like this? Next time we're protesting an oil pipeline, what's to stop them from saying that these protests jeopardize Canada's energy security; It's disrupting critical infrastructure. They don't even have to arrest people anymore. Freeze your bank accounts, suspend your phone service, cancel your license. Without legal protections in our modern world, it wouldn't take a week for a government to turn you into a penniless vagrant.

abledon 5y ago
well, if some protestors are causing 50 million in lost business per day, its a cause for concern. US keeps their stuff local, built in USA, and Canadas economy and trade relations become weaker with its neighbour to the south
justnotworthit 5y ago
Truckers (in general, according to published data) are over 90% voluntarily vaccinated; that's more than the general population.
- eloisius 5y ago
  Not sure what your point is. At least 90% of Canadians use fossil fuels. Next time there is a protest against an oil pipeline is it okay to freeze their bank accounts?

abandonliberty 5y ago

This isn't some person's bank account. These are foreign-funded terrorists. https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/anonymous-donations-to-convoy-as-high-as-215-000-concern-canadian-mps-1.5777497 https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/anonymous-donations-to-convoy-as-... Assuming both police force (as many minorities have experienced) and administrative force can be abused, is one worse for society or more susceptible to abuse?

twoxproblematic 5y ago