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But they aren’t being peaceful in Ottawa. They tried to burn down a condo building last night and have terrorized residents there for weeks now.

perfopt 5y ago
Nor were they peaceful in India. In addition to the violence against police a woman in the group was raped. A man was killed brutally. The right to protest ends when it infringes on other's rights to go about their daily life. Occupying highways and roads for months on end is not a peaceful protest. Canadian politicians, including some in the cabinet, supported violent protests in India. Canadian citizens fueled money to the protests in India.
- InvertedRhodium 5y ago
  > Occupying highways and roads for months on end is not a peaceful protest. What is inherently violent in those actions?
  - lwansbrough 5y ago
    Non-peaceful does not imply violence. Most everyone is willing to tolerate a couple days of protests. Where it gets beyond peaceful is when you’re making a huge amount of noise at all hours of the day for weeks on end. That isn’t peaceful, it’s obviously disruptive to the point of intolerability. It’s abusing our willingness to tolerate protest.
    - InvertedRhodium 5y ago
      > Non-peaceful does not imply violence. What, specifically, about this protest is not peaceful - in the context of protests? > Most everyone is willing to tolerate a couple days of protests. If you only protest so long as people are willing to tolerate it, I don't see the point of protesting at all. Could you imagine how society would look today if emancipation protestors packed it up and went home after a few days? > That isn’t peaceful, it’s obviously disruptive to the point of intolerability. If being disruptive isn't the point of a protest, what is?
      - lwansbrough 5y ago
        > What, specifically, about this protest is not peaceful - in the context of protests? Semi trucks blaring their horns at 3am in the middle of a city for a week straight. > If you only protest so long as people are willing to tolerate it, I don't see the point of protesting at all. You have to expect that after 2 weeks of constant disruption, something has to give. Despite the fact that blockades are illegal, I supported the protesters’ right to protest regardless. But my good will has run out. Their demands aren’t reasonable and their methods are not proportional to their grievance. Nobody wants to be wearing masks, and at this point I’m pretty much over them, but if Health Canada thinks it’ll help keep cases low enough to keep hospitals from overflowing then we can keep them for a couple more weeks. Whether or not this is the case is not for me to make a determination about. It’s been clear for about a month now that mask mandates would be lifted soon anyway. > If being disruptive isn't the point of a protest, what is? The protestors target for two weeks were random residents of downtown Ottawa. If you’re going to disrupt something, make sure you’ve got the right target. Otherwise you’re just an asshole with a horn.
haltingproblem 5y ago
They were not being peaceful in India either - the "farmers" attacked and beat up police, tore down the national flag and hoisted their own, blocked a major highway for months, there were rapes at the protest site, etc. etc.
walkhour 5y ago
Every protest will have that one percent of idiots that will make it violent. Whether you ignore them or obsess over them tells more about you than about the protest.

perfopt 5y ago

Nor were they peaceful in India. In addition to the violence against police a woman in the group was raped. A man was killed brutally. The right to protest ends when it infringes on other's rights to go about their daily life. Occupying highways and roads for months on end is not a peaceful protest. Canadian politicians, including some in the cabinet, supported violent protests in India. Canadian citizens fueled money to the protests in India.

InvertedRhodium 5y ago
> Occupying highways and roads for months on end is not a peaceful protest. What is inherently violent in those actions?
- lwansbrough 5y ago
  Non-peaceful does not imply violence. Most everyone is willing to tolerate a couple days of protests. Where it gets beyond peaceful is when you’re making a huge amount of noise at all hours of the day for weeks on end. That isn’t peaceful, it’s obviously disruptive to the point of intolerability. It’s abusing our willingness to tolerate protest.
  - InvertedRhodium 5y ago
    > Non-peaceful does not imply violence. What, specifically, about this protest is not peaceful - in the context of protests? > Most everyone is willing to tolerate a couple days of protests. If you only protest so long as people are willing to tolerate it, I don't see the point of protesting at all. Could you imagine how society would look today if emancipation protestors packed it up and went home after a few days? > That isn’t peaceful, it’s obviously disruptive to the point of intolerability. If being disruptive isn't the point of a protest, what is?
    - lwansbrough 5y ago
      > What, specifically, about this protest is not peaceful - in the context of protests? Semi trucks blaring their horns at 3am in the middle of a city for a week straight. > If you only protest so long as people are willing to tolerate it, I don't see the point of protesting at all. You have to expect that after 2 weeks of constant disruption, something has to give. Despite the fact that blockades are illegal, I supported the protesters’ right to protest regardless. But my good will has run out. Their demands aren’t reasonable and their methods are not proportional to their grievance. Nobody wants to be wearing masks, and at this point I’m pretty much over them, but if Health Canada thinks it’ll help keep cases low enough to keep hospitals from overflowing then we can keep them for a couple more weeks. Whether or not this is the case is not for me to make a determination about. It’s been clear for about a month now that mask mandates would be lifted soon anyway. > If being disruptive isn't the point of a protest, what is? The protestors target for two weeks were random residents of downtown Ottawa. If you’re going to disrupt something, make sure you’ve got the right target. Otherwise you’re just an asshole with a horn.

haltingproblem 5y ago

They were not being peaceful in India either - the "farmers" attacked and beat up police, tore down the national flag and hoisted their own, blocked a major highway for months, there were rapes at the protest site, etc. etc.

walkhour 5y ago

Every protest will have that one percent of idiots that will make it violent. Whether you ignore them or obsess over them tells more about you than about the protest.