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Availability Bias. You are assuming "almost all users" mirrors the users you know. The engine is all that matters to me. Certain sites work differently on diff

Availability Bias. You are assuming "almost all users" mirrors the users you know. The engine is all that matters to me. Certain sites work differently on different engines. The only reason I leave Safari is for a different engine that often works better on less popular or more niche sites (PKI and some other issues). I can't do that on my iPhone. I wish I could. I know many people, not technologically inclined, that just try different browsers on their computers when a website doesn't work. They don't know they are trying different engines, they just know it works on their computer. They also don't know that this methodology doesn't work on iOS. They still try.

marcellus23 5y ago
> You are assuming "almost all users" mirrors the users you know. > … > I know many people who… Uh, why are the people you know more valid than the people I know? Also no one brought up trying different browsers for compatibility reasons, and tbh, I don’t think anyone does that on their phone. It’s definitely the case that the two comments I’ve gotten are from people who personally care about the engine more than the chrome, but I’ve seen nothing to suggest the average person does.
- Diesel555 5y ago
  > Uh, why are the people you know more valid than the people I know? I never made such a claim. I explained some subset of the population that is different than yours. I never made an assumption about the population as a whole, which “almost all users” from the original post does. I intentionally did not attempt to take my experience and claim it is representative of the population. You further prove my original point by stating “tbh, I don’t think anyone does that on their phone.” You feel confident that your experiences represent the population that you can speculate about what they do? That you can speak for users in India, grandma’s in Indiana, and software engineers in Texas? I see this logic often in policy debates and it affects outcomes which has the potential to hurt groups outside the advocate’s bubble, even with the best of intentions, simply because they think they understand the population, rather than being aware of how much they don’t know. Again, I never claimed you were right or wrong, I just pointed out you don’t have justifiable confidence, in a statistical sense, to make such claims.

marcellus23 5y ago

> You are assuming "almost all users" mirrors the users you know. > … > I know many people who… Uh, why are the people you know more valid than the people I know? Also no one brought up trying different browsers for compatibility reasons, and tbh, I don’t think anyone does that on their phone. It’s definitely the case that the two comments I’ve gotten are from people who personally care about the engine more than the chrome, but I’ve seen nothing to suggest the average person does.

Diesel555 5y ago
> Uh, why are the people you know more valid than the people I know? I never made such a claim. I explained some subset of the population that is different than yours. I never made an assumption about the population as a whole, which “almost all users” from the original post does. I intentionally did not attempt to take my experience and claim it is representative of the population. You further prove my original point by stating “tbh, I don’t think anyone does that on their phone.” You feel confident that your experiences represent the population that you can speculate about what they do? That you can speak for users in India, grandma’s in Indiana, and software engineers in Texas? I see this logic often in policy debates and it affects outcomes which has the potential to hurt groups outside the advocate’s bubble, even with the best of intentions, simply because they think they understand the population, rather than being aware of how much they don’t know. Again, I never claimed you were right or wrong, I just pointed out you don’t have justifiable confidence, in a statistical sense, to make such claims.