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I agree with the main points of the article. > We could ask candidates on video (or in person) to see a photo ID and match the ID against the resume. But this

I agree with the main points of the article. > We could ask candidates on video (or in person) to see a photo ID and match the ID against the resume. But this would seem very weird. It starts an interview off in a hostile manner, and send the a strong message of distrust. Honest candidates – which are, remember, the vast majority – will wonder why the heck this company is acting so weird, and will rightly see this as a red flag about the company culture. There will be negative consequences for your hiring practices. This sort of verification is already being used for some KYC processes by financial institutions (i.e., take a live video of yourself holding your ID that’s uploaded for verification). It’s probably a matter of time until this is so normalized with virtual KYC that people wouldn’t care much when asked to do the same by a potential employer. The process already excludes certain people (like the transphobic process mentioned in the article). There is always a cost to the company for an incorrect hire, regardless of the underlying reason. So I would expect company HR teams to read that (widely shared) post and formulate strict identity checking and recording mechanisms so that they can absolve themselves from what may seem like an oversight or error. It also fits well with the typical HR style that’s more about controlling employees than about enabling/helping them (apologies to any good HR folks who are out there who struggle against the weight of the systems).

zhte415 5y ago
Did that KYC for financial institutions not already exist, but had to be done in branch? Now can be done online.
Johnny555 5y ago
It’s probably a matter of time until this is so normalized with virtual KYC that people wouldn’t care much when asked to do the same by a potential employer. Though as it becomes more common, it's probably also a matter of time before software is available that lets someone hold up a green card and it's replaced with the document of their choice on the video feed.
- eternauta3k 5y ago
  Of course it's an arms race, but they already have countermeasures in place: asking you to partially obscure the ID with your hand, asking you to show how the holograms change as you tilt the ID, etc.
  - Johnny555 5y ago
    I'd think that's all relatively easy to compensate for, just film (or create in CGI) the card held in different directions, then merge into the green screen card. Seems like it'd be better if chip card readers became ubiquitous on home computers and mobile devices, then we can scan our drivers license or other government ID to prove that we have possession of the physical card (and when making online purchases we can scan a credit card instead of typing in a number that can be stolen).

zhte415 5y ago

Did that KYC for financial institutions not already exist, but had to be done in branch? Now can be done online.

Johnny555 5y ago

It’s probably a matter of time until this is so normalized with virtual KYC that people wouldn’t care much when asked to do the same by a potential employer. Though as it becomes more common, it's probably also a matter of time before software is available that lets someone hold up a green card and it's replaced with the document of their choice on the video feed.

eternauta3k 5y ago
Of course it's an arms race, but they already have countermeasures in place: asking you to partially obscure the ID with your hand, asking you to show how the holograms change as you tilt the ID, etc.
- Johnny555 5y ago
  I'd think that's all relatively easy to compensate for, just film (or create in CGI) the card held in different directions, then merge into the green screen card. Seems like it'd be better if chip card readers became ubiquitous on home computers and mobile devices, then we can scan our drivers license or other government ID to prove that we have possession of the physical card (and when making online purchases we can scan a credit card instead of typing in a number that can be stolen).