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I think at some level most people know this, certainly Trudeau. But it's much easier to get what you want by pushing the narrative that these are racist, conspi

I think at some level most people know this, certainly Trudeau. But it's much easier to get what you want by pushing the narrative that these are racist, conspiracy theorists who think that vaccines have microchips or whatever other stuff gullible canadians actually believe people think. In my province, we have to show our "vaccine pass" to go to the liquor store, the hardware store, I don't know what else, I dont go to stores anymore (I have all 3 vaccine shots). We have one of the highest vaccination rates in the world, and that has just emboldened "leaders" to push even tighter restrictions. The protests are about the horrible place our country has become, they have nothing to do with belief or disbelief in vaccines as a concept. And I have to add, if there was ever a vaccine to disbelieve in, it is this one, I mean honestly, it "prevents severe infection" - sure, is that justification for state compelled vaccination?

pm90 5y ago
> And I have to add, if there was ever a vaccine to disbelieve in, it is this one, I mean honestly, it "prevents severe infection" - sure, is that justification for state compelled vaccination? Yes it is.
- xanaxagoras 5y ago
  That's an interesting argument, I hadn't thought of it that way before.
- oehpr 5y ago
  God. Even more than this. "Why should people, who's profession is driving around transporting goods intercity and internationally, be required to get vaccinated?" I wonder I wonder what the reason could be. Wow what a pickle. Well I just can't figure this puzzle out.
YZF 5y ago
At least some were flying confederate flags... Well, in my province it's not a problem. There you prove point #1, this is not a federal issue. What province are you in? In my province leaders aren't pushing tighter restrictions. It doesn't matter what your grievances are, you don't get to park your truck in the middle of the street and break the law. Not in this country. Whether they "right" or "wrong" doesn't even factor into this. I think, and so has most of the population during this pandemic, that Canada did a great job balancing public health with the needs of individuals. Ofcourse this varies province to province but as a whole. Better than many other places. There is no "state compelled vaccination". The right to cross the border while not being subject to any restriction is not a god given right. But you don't want to get vaccinated, great, don't drive your truck across the border. For most of the pandemic truckers were allowed freely across the border while others (like me) were not with no quarantine or vaccine requirements. As Delta rose to dominance the rules changed (the change happened Nov 18th, 2021!). I wouldn't even rule out state compelled vaccinations for all under some scenarios.
- swader999 5y ago
  The Confederate flag was carried by one person completely covered and anonymous. The flag was brand new, still creased from the packaging. Trudeau's personal photographer was photographed following this person while taking pictures. There's several videos of many people in the protest harassing this person until they are forced to leave.
  - Nursie 5y ago
    "Anything bad was the government"
  - YZF 5y ago
    I would say this is a case of tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are. So yeah, the guys with the Nazi flags, the confederate flags, the US flags, they're all Trudeau's agents. Right. Flying the Canadian flag in this sort of divisive protest is honestly evidence enough of who we're dealing with here. You don't get to appropriate the flag, you don't get to appropriate the term "freedom". If you stand with those guys then it's clear who you stand with. Criticism and healthy discussion is one thing, this is another. And I agree the health measures should be gradually removed and the pandemic is basically over. " Shimon Koffler Fogel, CEO of the Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs (CIJA), issued the following statement: "Twenty-four hours after International Holocaust Remembrance Day and on The National Day of Remembrance of the Québec City Mosque Attack and Action against Islamophobia, there are Nazi flags being flown in public, in Canada, on Parliament Hill. This should be horrifying to all Canadians." " https://www.cija.ca/nazi-flags-at-the-truckers-protest/ https://www.cija.ca/nazi-flags-at-the-truckers-protest/
    - swader999 5y ago
      You are being fooled.

pm90 5y ago

> And I have to add, if there was ever a vaccine to disbelieve in, it is this one, I mean honestly, it "prevents severe infection" - sure, is that justification for state compelled vaccination? Yes it is.

xanaxagoras 5y ago
That's an interesting argument, I hadn't thought of it that way before.
oehpr 5y ago
God. Even more than this. "Why should people, who's profession is driving around transporting goods intercity and internationally, be required to get vaccinated?" I wonder I wonder what the reason could be. Wow what a pickle. Well I just can't figure this puzzle out.

YZF 5y ago

At least some were flying confederate flags... Well, in my province it's not a problem. There you prove point #1, this is not a federal issue. What province are you in? In my province leaders aren't pushing tighter restrictions. It doesn't matter what your grievances are, you don't get to park your truck in the middle of the street and break the law. Not in this country. Whether they "right" or "wrong" doesn't even factor into this. I think, and so has most of the population during this pandemic, that Canada did a great job balancing public health with the needs of individuals. Ofcourse this varies province to province but as a whole. Better than many other places. There is no "state compelled vaccination". The right to cross the border while not being subject to any restriction is not a god given right. But you don't want to get vaccinated, great, don't drive your truck across the border. For most of the pandemic truckers were allowed freely across the border while others (like me) were not with no quarantine or vaccine requirements. As Delta rose to dominance the rules changed (the change happened Nov 18th, 2021!). I wouldn't even rule out state compelled vaccinations for all under some scenarios.

swader999 5y ago
The Confederate flag was carried by one person completely covered and anonymous. The flag was brand new, still creased from the packaging. Trudeau's personal photographer was photographed following this person while taking pictures. There's several videos of many people in the protest harassing this person until they are forced to leave.
- Nursie 5y ago
  "Anything bad was the government"
- YZF 5y ago
  I would say this is a case of tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are. So yeah, the guys with the Nazi flags, the confederate flags, the US flags, they're all Trudeau's agents. Right. Flying the Canadian flag in this sort of divisive protest is honestly evidence enough of who we're dealing with here. You don't get to appropriate the flag, you don't get to appropriate the term "freedom". If you stand with those guys then it's clear who you stand with. Criticism and healthy discussion is one thing, this is another. And I agree the health measures should be gradually removed and the pandemic is basically over. " Shimon Koffler Fogel, CEO of the Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs (CIJA), issued the following statement: "Twenty-four hours after International Holocaust Remembrance Day and on The National Day of Remembrance of the Québec City Mosque Attack and Action against Islamophobia, there are Nazi flags being flown in public, in Canada, on Parliament Hill. This should be horrifying to all Canadians." " https://www.cija.ca/nazi-flags-at-the-truckers-protest/ https://www.cija.ca/nazi-flags-at-the-truckers-protest/
  - swader999 5y ago
    You are being fooled.