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Wow, do they not have to get blood draws before entering the force? I know little about police officers, but I know during in-processing into the military, at s

Wow, do they not have to get blood draws before entering the force? I know little about police officers, but I know during in-processing into the military, at some point you get blood drawn and your told that the information from that will go into the CODIS database for ever and always. Or at least I remember MEPS mentioning that when I was enlisting in the Navy.

torstenvl 5y ago
I remember something vaguely similar, but don't think that's accurate. New CODIS DNA draws are done when CODIS entry is triggered (after conviction or IRO retention in confinement, for qualifying offenses). You can even get CODIS entries expunged if there's a non-criminal disposition (e.g., accused retained in confinement at IRO later deals out via SILT or NJP/board waiver). If I had to guess, the accession DNA draw is solely for identifying remains, and CODIS is maintained entirely separately, though I don't have anything to back that up off the top of my head.
- tcmart14 5y ago
  Reading this [1]. It definitely seems as CODIS's primary purpose is connection to crime and such. I could be wrong and hope I am wrong. But it wouldn't be too surprising, my understanding from when I was in and see SAPR cases unfold, if the victim had a rape kit done and allowed for it go get tested (in case anyone isn't in the service, a military SAPR victim can have a rape kit complete and opt to not have it ran, but the military is supposed to keep it for 50 years at which any time a victim can opt to have it ran), they get hits on the DNA if it was another service member without them having to call them in for giving a DNA sample. So, I am pretty sure service memeber's DNA exist in CODIS or in some database that can be used to run against crime evidence. [1] https://www.fbi.gov/services/laboratory/biometric-analysis/codis/codis-and-ndis-fact-sheet https://www.fbi.gov/services/laboratory/biometric-analysis/c...

torstenvl 5y ago

I remember something vaguely similar, but don't think that's accurate. New CODIS DNA draws are done when CODIS entry is triggered (after conviction or IRO retention in confinement, for qualifying offenses). You can even get CODIS entries expunged if there's a non-criminal disposition (e.g., accused retained in confinement at IRO later deals out via SILT or NJP/board waiver). If I had to guess, the accession DNA draw is solely for identifying remains, and CODIS is maintained entirely separately, though I don't have anything to back that up off the top of my head.

tcmart14 5y ago
Reading this [1]. It definitely seems as CODIS's primary purpose is connection to crime and such. I could be wrong and hope I am wrong. But it wouldn't be too surprising, my understanding from when I was in and see SAPR cases unfold, if the victim had a rape kit done and allowed for it go get tested (in case anyone isn't in the service, a military SAPR victim can have a rape kit complete and opt to not have it ran, but the military is supposed to keep it for 50 years at which any time a victim can opt to have it ran), they get hits on the DNA if it was another service member without them having to call them in for giving a DNA sample. So, I am pretty sure service memeber's DNA exist in CODIS or in some database that can be used to run against crime evidence. [1] https://www.fbi.gov/services/laboratory/biometric-analysis/codis/codis-and-ndis-fact-sheet https://www.fbi.gov/services/laboratory/biometric-analysis/c...