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Well the Supreme Court has become a joke of an institution with really no credibility left. We made some progressive progress but now we are at a crossroads ab

by sjg007 5y ago

Well the Supreme Court has become a joke of an institution with really no credibility left. We made some progressive progress but now we are at a crossroads about to go backwards. However, appointing a black women to the Court is not racist.

AnimalMuppet 5y ago
The measure of the Supreme Court is not how well it drives "progressive progress". That's not the Supreme Court's job.
- sjg007 5y ago
  How do you measure it then?
  - AnimalMuppet 5y ago
    Before I answer that, let me give another wrong answer: We do not measure it by how well it advances a conservative agenda. That should expose what the problem is. The referee should not be one of the players, on either side. "Progressive progress" is the opposite of how we should judge the Supreme Court, just as "conservative progress" would be. And that should tell us the answer. We measure how well the Supreme Court does by how well it impartially judges based on the cases and the law, not based on any agenda. Now, judging that is obviously hard. Everyone is inclined to think the Supreme Court is biased against their position whenever it judges in a way they don't like. And maybe that's the only way to really measure it: If both sides think it's biased against them, then it might be doing rather well.
    - sjg007 5y ago
      I think you are confusing progressive progress with left wing Progressives, which is not the case I am making. I mean it as: making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/progressive https://www.dictionary.com/browse/progressive So in the light that Brown vs Board of Education was progressive progress.
parkingrift 5y ago
> However, appointing a black women to the Court is not racist. Appointing a black woman at the conclusion of a thorough candidate evaluation is not racist. Stating outright that you will appoint a black woman before candidates have been evaluated is racist. I feel sorry for all the asian judges of any sex, women of any other race, men of any race, Muslims of any sex, Hispanics of any sex, and anyone else not “black woman.” Apparently none of them are eligible for this prestigious appointment. Too bad for being born the way they were, I guess. “Equality”

by sjg007 5y ago

AnimalMuppet 5y ago

The measure of the Supreme Court is not how well it drives "progressive progress". That's not the Supreme Court's job.

sjg007 5y ago
How do you measure it then?
- AnimalMuppet 5y ago
  Before I answer that, let me give another wrong answer: We do not measure it by how well it advances a conservative agenda. That should expose what the problem is. The referee should not be one of the players, on either side. "Progressive progress" is the opposite of how we should judge the Supreme Court, just as "conservative progress" would be. And that should tell us the answer. We measure how well the Supreme Court does by how well it impartially judges based on the cases and the law, not based on any agenda. Now, judging that is obviously hard. Everyone is inclined to think the Supreme Court is biased against their position whenever it judges in a way they don't like. And maybe that's the only way to really measure it: If both sides think it's biased against them, then it might be doing rather well.
  - sjg007 5y ago
    I think you are confusing progressive progress with left wing Progressives, which is not the case I am making. I mean it as: making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/progressive https://www.dictionary.com/browse/progressive So in the light that Brown vs Board of Education was progressive progress.

parkingrift 5y ago

> However, appointing a black women to the Court is not racist. Appointing a black woman at the conclusion of a thorough candidate evaluation is not racist. Stating outright that you will appoint a black woman before candidates have been evaluated is racist. I feel sorry for all the asian judges of any sex, women of any other race, men of any race, Muslims of any sex, Hispanics of any sex, and anyone else not “black woman.” Apparently none of them are eligible for this prestigious appointment. Too bad for being born the way they were, I guess. “Equality”