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A small minority has decided to infringe on everyone's right to liberty by occupying their city with heavy machinery. The pro-liberty move is to get rid of the

A small minority has decided to infringe on everyone's right to liberty by occupying their city with heavy machinery. The pro-liberty move is to get rid of the occupiers.

throwaway894345 5y ago
Ah yes, the age-old liberal tradition of using the military to suppress peaceful protest.
- malermeister 5y ago
  It's not peaceful. https://twitter.com/travisdhanraj/status/1493281411364700161 https://twitter.com/travisdhanraj/status/1493281411364700161
  - throwaway894345 5y ago
    Admittedly that group of 11 people weren’t protesting peacefully, but one group acting in concert doesn’t indict the wider movement. On the scope of major protests in the last several decades in western democracies, this one definitely is about as close to the “peaceful” extreme as any have been. As a society, we should also strive for fairness in our rhetoric. It betrays our credibility to describe a riot which leaves a city in ashes as “mostly peaceful protest” simply because we agree with the cause and then to characterize these protests as “violent” because we don’t agree with them.
    - nathanaldensr 5y ago
      It's a manipulation of language, and one that is becoming more obvious to more people by the day. Remember, the internet never forgets. Remember when the definition of vaccine was changed? The internet remembers. These tactics don't work anymore.
- pkd 5y ago
  The military is explicitly not being used in this measure.
  - throwaway894345 5y ago
    The context of the thread: > Two-thirds of Canadians support military force to end Ottawa protests
- lariati 5y ago
  These truckers did nothing other than grease the wheels of authoritarianism anyway. This is the last real protest in Canada. Next time, these "emergency" powers will either be immediate or these new powers are just new permanent government powers. 2/3rds the citizens will practically be demanding that this never happens again. A lesson in why Ben Franklin said that democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
  - throwaway894345 5y ago
    Greasing the wheels of authoritarianism by peacefully protesting—that seems a lot like victim blaming to me. Something is really wrong if our democracies can’t handle peaceful protest.

A small minority has decided to infringe on everyone's right to liberty by occupying their city with heavy machinery. The pro-liberty move is to get rid of the occupiers.

throwaway894345 5y ago

Ah yes, the age-old liberal tradition of using the military to suppress peaceful protest.

malermeister 5y ago
It's not peaceful. https://twitter.com/travisdhanraj/status/1493281411364700161 https://twitter.com/travisdhanraj/status/1493281411364700161
- throwaway894345 5y ago
  Admittedly that group of 11 people weren’t protesting peacefully, but one group acting in concert doesn’t indict the wider movement. On the scope of major protests in the last several decades in western democracies, this one definitely is about as close to the “peaceful” extreme as any have been. As a society, we should also strive for fairness in our rhetoric. It betrays our credibility to describe a riot which leaves a city in ashes as “mostly peaceful protest” simply because we agree with the cause and then to characterize these protests as “violent” because we don’t agree with them.
  - nathanaldensr 5y ago
    It's a manipulation of language, and one that is becoming more obvious to more people by the day. Remember, the internet never forgets. Remember when the definition of vaccine was changed? The internet remembers. These tactics don't work anymore.
pkd 5y ago
The military is explicitly not being used in this measure.
- throwaway894345 5y ago
  The context of the thread: > Two-thirds of Canadians support military force to end Ottawa protests
lariati 5y ago
These truckers did nothing other than grease the wheels of authoritarianism anyway. This is the last real protest in Canada. Next time, these "emergency" powers will either be immediate or these new powers are just new permanent government powers. 2/3rds the citizens will practically be demanding that this never happens again. A lesson in why Ben Franklin said that democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
- throwaway894345 5y ago
  Greasing the wheels of authoritarianism by peacefully protesting—that seems a lot like victim blaming to me. Something is really wrong if our democracies can’t handle peaceful protest.