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In the same way how Texas is a victim of USA "regime". Ukraine's claim to be victim of USSR is just a modern myth their nationalists trying to force last ten ye

In the same way how Texas is a victim of USA "regime". Ukraine's claim to be victim of USSR is just a modern myth their nationalists trying to force last ten years. But it's even not widely supported there, many Ukraine people connect themselves with Russia rather than with Europe, USA or whatever. Many people there prefer speak russian despite the government trying to forbid it. This is how they lost Crimea without a fight, it just has gone and doesn't want to return back. Ever saw crimean people to protest? The same way other territories may go away to Russia.

dgellow 5y ago
Quit your propaganda bullshit. - Ukraine does not try to forbid Russian language, that's complete disinformation. - Crimea has been invaded by Russian special forces and annexed by Russia, there is no ambiguity here. - The fact that Ukraine has a part of its population related to the Russian culture, language, traditions does not justify Russian invading the country. - Your comparison with Texas is non-sensical. Ukraine has been invaded by the USSR. The Soviet-Ukrainian war happened almost 100 years ago and resulted in a military invasion of the country. Under USSR the Ukrainian movements for independence have been crushed violently and the Ukrainian national identity and cultural identity has been systematically destroyed under Stalin.
- Nasreddin_Hodja 5y ago
  > Ukraine does not try to forbid Russian language, that's complete disinformation. https://www.france24.com/en/20180920-ukraine-region-ban-russian-culture-sparks-controversy https://www.france24.com/en/20180920-ukraine-region-ban-russ... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/25/ukraine-passes-law-against-russian-language-official-settings/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/25/ukraine-passes-l... Basically this is why Crimea doesn't want to be part of Ukraine anymore. And other regions may follow this way. > Crimea has been invaded by Russian special forces and annexed by Russia, there is no ambiguity here. You forgot to ask crimeans whether they were invaded. Even chechens don't claim that they are invaded, despite there was real war there, unlike in Crimea. > Your comparison with Texas is non-sensical. You forgot to ask Chuck Norris. https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/83ln5/chuck_norris_claims_thousands_of_right_wing_cell/ https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/83ln5/chuck_norri... Your claim Ukraine been invaded by USSR is too. Ukraine have signed official agreement to be part of USSR. > does not justify Russian invading the country. It's better if such unstable "countries" like Ukraine, Chechnya, e.t.c. to be controlled by a strong country like Russia, USA, China, e.t.c. Letting them do whatever they want threatens the security of Europe. And it's better if Russia invades Ukraine than if somebody like ISIS takes control over them.
  - dgellow 5y ago
    I see, it didn't take that much for the mask to slip. No need arguing with a propagandist.
    - Nasreddin_Hodja 5y ago
      > propagandist No, it's you.

dgellow 5y ago

Quit your propaganda bullshit. - Ukraine does not try to forbid Russian language, that's complete disinformation. - Crimea has been invaded by Russian special forces and annexed by Russia, there is no ambiguity here. - The fact that Ukraine has a part of its population related to the Russian culture, language, traditions does not justify Russian invading the country. - Your comparison with Texas is non-sensical. Ukraine has been invaded by the USSR. The Soviet-Ukrainian war happened almost 100 years ago and resulted in a military invasion of the country. Under USSR the Ukrainian movements for independence have been crushed violently and the Ukrainian national identity and cultural identity has been systematically destroyed under Stalin.

Nasreddin_Hodja 5y ago
> Ukraine does not try to forbid Russian language, that's complete disinformation. https://www.france24.com/en/20180920-ukraine-region-ban-russian-culture-sparks-controversy https://www.france24.com/en/20180920-ukraine-region-ban-russ... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/25/ukraine-passes-law-against-russian-language-official-settings/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/25/ukraine-passes-l... Basically this is why Crimea doesn't want to be part of Ukraine anymore. And other regions may follow this way. > Crimea has been invaded by Russian special forces and annexed by Russia, there is no ambiguity here. You forgot to ask crimeans whether they were invaded. Even chechens don't claim that they are invaded, despite there was real war there, unlike in Crimea. > Your comparison with Texas is non-sensical. You forgot to ask Chuck Norris. https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/83ln5/chuck_norris_claims_thousands_of_right_wing_cell/ https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/83ln5/chuck_norri... Your claim Ukraine been invaded by USSR is too. Ukraine have signed official agreement to be part of USSR. > does not justify Russian invading the country. It's better if such unstable "countries" like Ukraine, Chechnya, e.t.c. to be controlled by a strong country like Russia, USA, China, e.t.c. Letting them do whatever they want threatens the security of Europe. And it's better if Russia invades Ukraine than if somebody like ISIS takes control over them.
- dgellow 5y ago
  I see, it didn't take that much for the mask to slip. No need arguing with a propagandist.
  - Nasreddin_Hodja 5y ago
    > propagandist No, it's you.