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You can't turn off IP-based geolocation. To play the devil's advocate, they might just be using this to revoke stolen sessions when the same session makes reque

You can't turn off IP-based geolocation. To play the devil's advocate, they might just be using this to revoke stolen sessions when the same session makes requests from different locations.

paxys 5y ago
> You can't turn off IP-based geolocation They also can't get your IP address when you are not using the site, so it is the same thing.
- jozvolskyef 5y ago
  Apps can make background requests.
  - tomhoward 5y ago
    Not if you turn off location permissions and background app refresh.
    - jozvolskyef 5y ago
      I've never been asked for a background refresh permission on an Android. Is that an iOS thing?
      - tomhoward 5y ago
        It looks like it's just something the app developer can turn on, and it will be enabled without having to ask the user for permission. But you can turn it off: https://www.asurion.com/connect/tech-tips/conserve-phone-data-by-turning-off-the-background-refresh/ https://www.asurion.com/connect/tech-tips/conserve-phone-dat...
      - zibzab 5y ago
        It exists on Android too, but it's not a normal permission. See under the apps battery options
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bigiain 5y ago
> You can't turn off IP-based geolocation. Thats about 99% of the reason my phone is always using a VPN. Sure, geolocate my IP. I'm in Melbourne. Accurate to an almost 1000km CEP...
can16358p 5y ago
And mistakenly flagging you when you switch to/from VPN.
- Nextgrid 5y ago
  Not "mistakenly". Their objective is for you to "engage" with the app and submit to whatever shit they throw at you no questions asked. By using countermeasures, you're demonstrating that you are more privacy-conscious and/or more tech-savvy than the average. This means you are more likely to be a problem when they try to swindle you in one way or another down the line, whether it's the next dark pattern that they want you to fall for or try to scam you and hope you just accept your fate instead of raising a chargeback, etc. There's no reason for them to accept even a sliver of risk as long as there's an endless supply of people who don't carry said risk, therefore any indicator that you deviate from the average could lead to a ban, especially if the margins are super-thin or non-existent (when the objective is "engagement" rather than profit). Now I doubt any of this has been started intentionally - most likely the anti-abuse mechanisms learned over time the correlation between different signals such as usage of a VPN, etc, but because of the above there's also no pressure to "fix" this problem for legitimate users of VPNs.

You can't turn off IP-based geolocation. To play the devil's advocate, they might just be using this to revoke stolen sessions when the same session makes requests from different locations.

paxys 5y ago

> You can't turn off IP-based geolocation They also can't get your IP address when you are not using the site, so it is the same thing.

jozvolskyef 5y ago
Apps can make background requests.
- tomhoward 5y ago
  Not if you turn off location permissions and background app refresh.
  - jozvolskyef 5y ago
    I've never been asked for a background refresh permission on an Android. Is that an iOS thing?
    - tomhoward 5y ago
      It looks like it's just something the app developer can turn on, and it will be enabled without having to ask the user for permission. But you can turn it off: https://www.asurion.com/connect/tech-tips/conserve-phone-data-by-turning-off-the-background-refresh/ https://www.asurion.com/connect/tech-tips/conserve-phone-dat...
    - zibzab 5y ago
      It exists on Android too, but it's not a normal permission. See under the apps battery options
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bigiain 5y ago

> You can't turn off IP-based geolocation. Thats about 99% of the reason my phone is always using a VPN. Sure, geolocate my IP. I'm in Melbourne. Accurate to an almost 1000km CEP...

can16358p 5y ago

And mistakenly flagging you when you switch to/from VPN.

Nextgrid 5y ago
Not "mistakenly". Their objective is for you to "engage" with the app and submit to whatever shit they throw at you no questions asked. By using countermeasures, you're demonstrating that you are more privacy-conscious and/or more tech-savvy than the average. This means you are more likely to be a problem when they try to swindle you in one way or another down the line, whether it's the next dark pattern that they want you to fall for or try to scam you and hope you just accept your fate instead of raising a chargeback, etc. There's no reason for them to accept even a sliver of risk as long as there's an endless supply of people who don't carry said risk, therefore any indicator that you deviate from the average could lead to a ban, especially if the margins are super-thin or non-existent (when the objective is "engagement" rather than profit). Now I doubt any of this has been started intentionally - most likely the anti-abuse mechanisms learned over time the correlation between different signals such as usage of a VPN, etc, but because of the above there's also no pressure to "fix" this problem for legitimate users of VPNs.