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No I disagreed about prioritizing affordable housing and treating mental healthcare as an after thought. I was asking specifically about the person that is dea

No I disagreed about prioritizing affordable housing and treating mental healthcare as an after thought. I was asking specifically about the person that is dealing with schizophrenia in the example that you provided. What are the next steps in resolution.

DoreenMichele 5y ago
Housing is healthcare. I've already said that in my very first comment in this particular thread. To whatever degree a mental illness is treatable with medication, it can be viewed as a physical ailment with somatopsychic symptoms. I've already said that, elsewhere in this article discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30334409 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30334409 If that isn't computing for you, it isn't going to get better to keep telling me I'm wrong and you don't agree. Your mental models of this problem space and mine clearly aren't jibing. This form of engagement isn't likely to bridge the gap between where you are on this and where I am. I've spent years talking about this stuff online, including on HN a whole lot. It's not been a waste of time but there's only so far that goes. At this point, my focus is on trying to flesh out a potential pilot project -- like I said in my first comment. Sometimes words get in the way. Sometimes the best thing to do is do it and show people. That's what I hope to do though I may not be able to. I'm not wealthy. I'm not connected. Most of the world does not see what I see. (Shrug)
- muh_gradle 5y ago
  I'm not sure why you keep talking at me instead of answering my simple question. I never once disagreed about the importance of affordable housing if you actually read what I said instead of getting so easily offended by what I am saying. I am repeatedly saying that we need to instead reinforce mandatory treatment, provide psych beds, and mitigate dangers of homeless people (that are a danger to themselves and others), especially for those that are committing violent crimes. To you, this is crisis management that is extremely convenient to ignore. That is not convenient for the rest of us that deal with the negative externality from these types of homeless people every single day. Repeatedly mentioning that you spent years talking about this has absolutely no bearing on me. It's not my mental model that isn't working with yours. It's really your language and how you are approaching basic questions that are asking for a clarification on your insight. It definitely seems like words are getting in the way for you then if you can't do the simplest of explanations. Have a good day.

DoreenMichele 5y ago

Housing is healthcare. I've already said that in my very first comment in this particular thread. To whatever degree a mental illness is treatable with medication, it can be viewed as a physical ailment with somatopsychic symptoms. I've already said that, elsewhere in this article discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30334409 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30334409 If that isn't computing for you, it isn't going to get better to keep telling me I'm wrong and you don't agree. Your mental models of this problem space and mine clearly aren't jibing. This form of engagement isn't likely to bridge the gap between where you are on this and where I am. I've spent years talking about this stuff online, including on HN a whole lot. It's not been a waste of time but there's only so far that goes. At this point, my focus is on trying to flesh out a potential pilot project -- like I said in my first comment. Sometimes words get in the way. Sometimes the best thing to do is do it and show people. That's what I hope to do though I may not be able to. I'm not wealthy. I'm not connected. Most of the world does not see what I see. (Shrug)

muh_gradle 5y ago
I'm not sure why you keep talking at me instead of answering my simple question. I never once disagreed about the importance of affordable housing if you actually read what I said instead of getting so easily offended by what I am saying. I am repeatedly saying that we need to instead reinforce mandatory treatment, provide psych beds, and mitigate dangers of homeless people (that are a danger to themselves and others), especially for those that are committing violent crimes. To you, this is crisis management that is extremely convenient to ignore. That is not convenient for the rest of us that deal with the negative externality from these types of homeless people every single day. Repeatedly mentioning that you spent years talking about this has absolutely no bearing on me. It's not my mental model that isn't working with yours. It's really your language and how you are approaching basic questions that are asking for a clarification on your insight. It definitely seems like words are getting in the way for you then if you can't do the simplest of explanations. Have a good day.