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11 people were arrested on weapons charges at the Alberta blockade (handguns and body armor) and one person was arrested and charged with conspiracy to commit m

11 people were arrested on weapons charges at the Alberta blockade (handguns and body armor) and one person was arrested and charged with conspiracy to commit murder for trying to run over police with his tractor

jterrys 5y ago
That's still a considerably small number of people considering the protesters number in the tens of thousands
giantg2 5y ago
That says a lot if that's what a violent protest looks like in Canada when the "peaceful" ones in the US involve millions of dollars in property damage and numerous injuries or deaths.
- danudey 5y ago
  Well yeah, it's not like we lost a hockey game or anything. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Vancouver_Stanley_Cup_riot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Vancouver_Stanley_Cup_rio... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Vancouver_Stanley_Cup_riot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Vancouver_Stanley_Cup_rio...
  - OJFord 5y ago
    Strangest to me there is actually the realisation that 'loo' being a mainly British word (I knew that), over there they're not called 'portaloos'. ('Porta-potties'!) (Further, both trademarks. Or at least were.)
- flyingcircus3 5y ago
  While we're on the subject of the fallacy of relative privation, you'll surely acknowledge that the closure of the Ambassador Bridge for a week is a couple orders of magnitude worse than the 2020 protests. After all, the appropriate measure of a protest is dollars lost, and hundreds of millions of dollars of goods cross the bridge every day.
  - giantg2 5y ago
    Not really that fallacy - no claim was made that it wasn't a problem. If anything, it's a musing on how media bias may affect how things are portrayed. Specifically with calling something violent. If violence is the adjective we are examining, the loss (or delay) of revenue from the protest would not fit in this model. I am curious though, are goods not being rerouted?
    - flyingcircus3 5y ago
      Absolutely that fallacy. You're holding the 2020 BLM protests up as being far worse. In fact, you've quantified just how bad they were, as a means of demonstrating that these protests are not as bad. The fallacy is not the claim that this isn't a problem, but that its not nearly as bad as this other problem, and therefore not worthy of the reaction. Many of the large auto manufacturers shutdown production lines in response to the bridge closure. Delayed revenue is lost revenue.
      - giantg2 5y ago
        "Fallacy of relative privation (also known as "appeal to worse problems" or "not as bad as") – dismissing an argument or complaint due to what are perceived to be more important problems." I have not dismissed the issue. Do you have a source to back up your claim? Also, can you quote where I say this protest is not an issue or not worthy of being addressed? Again, this was mostly about bias in reporting. "Delayed revenue is lost revenue." Here's a fallacy - false equivalent. Delaying revenue does not mean that revenue is lost. Demand and orders do not cease to exist simply because production temporarily halts. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
      - flyingcircus3 5y ago
        @giantg2 The fallacy is claiming that one is not as bad because the other exists. You seem to be defending your comments from absolute privation. I refer to the first comment I replied to, >That says a lot if that's what a violent protest looks like in Canada when the "peaceful" ones in the US involve millions of dollars in property damage and numerous injuries or deaths. Isn't pedantry fun?

jterrys 5y ago

That's still a considerably small number of people considering the protesters number in the tens of thousands

giantg2 5y ago

That says a lot if that's what a violent protest looks like in Canada when the "peaceful" ones in the US involve millions of dollars in property damage and numerous injuries or deaths.

danudey 5y ago
Well yeah, it's not like we lost a hockey game or anything. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Vancouver_Stanley_Cup_riot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Vancouver_Stanley_Cup_rio... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Vancouver_Stanley_Cup_riot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Vancouver_Stanley_Cup_rio...
- OJFord 5y ago
  Strangest to me there is actually the realisation that 'loo' being a mainly British word (I knew that), over there they're not called 'portaloos'. ('Porta-potties'!) (Further, both trademarks. Or at least were.)
flyingcircus3 5y ago
While we're on the subject of the fallacy of relative privation, you'll surely acknowledge that the closure of the Ambassador Bridge for a week is a couple orders of magnitude worse than the 2020 protests. After all, the appropriate measure of a protest is dollars lost, and hundreds of millions of dollars of goods cross the bridge every day.
- giantg2 5y ago
  Not really that fallacy - no claim was made that it wasn't a problem. If anything, it's a musing on how media bias may affect how things are portrayed. Specifically with calling something violent. If violence is the adjective we are examining, the loss (or delay) of revenue from the protest would not fit in this model. I am curious though, are goods not being rerouted?
  - flyingcircus3 5y ago
    Absolutely that fallacy. You're holding the 2020 BLM protests up as being far worse. In fact, you've quantified just how bad they were, as a means of demonstrating that these protests are not as bad. The fallacy is not the claim that this isn't a problem, but that its not nearly as bad as this other problem, and therefore not worthy of the reaction. Many of the large auto manufacturers shutdown production lines in response to the bridge closure. Delayed revenue is lost revenue.
    - giantg2 5y ago
      "Fallacy of relative privation (also known as "appeal to worse problems" or "not as bad as") – dismissing an argument or complaint due to what are perceived to be more important problems." I have not dismissed the issue. Do you have a source to back up your claim? Also, can you quote where I say this protest is not an issue or not worthy of being addressed? Again, this was mostly about bias in reporting. "Delayed revenue is lost revenue." Here's a fallacy - false equivalent. Delaying revenue does not mean that revenue is lost. Demand and orders do not cease to exist simply because production temporarily halts. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
    - flyingcircus3 5y ago
      @giantg2 The fallacy is claiming that one is not as bad because the other exists. You seem to be defending your comments from absolute privation. I refer to the first comment I replied to, >That says a lot if that's what a violent protest looks like in Canada when the "peaceful" ones in the US involve millions of dollars in property damage and numerous injuries or deaths. Isn't pedantry fun?