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As you point out, the UX is not all that polished yet, but it seems to be making reasonable progress. The protocol is convoluted, but what it's doing is also a
by dotnet00 5y ago
As you point out, the UX is not all that polished yet, but it seems to be making reasonable progress. The protocol is convoluted, but what it's doing is also a lot more complex than IRC. For me it's more comparable to IRC than discord in the sense that discord is completely centralized and exhibits all the problems we see from other centralized social media.
I've been running a private homeserver for communication with some friends (for when we'd rather not have the data stored with discord) and while I do agree with most of your points, even my non-technical friends managed to get in relatively easily. It wasn't as simple as with discord, but certainly not too far from what people are used to these days.
A simpler protocol with better decentralization and polished client can probably be done but it's obviously a lot of work. My biggest concern with Matrix is the conflicting incentive created by having the company that does most of the development also be the one providing the most popular homeserver. They're effectively incentivized to centralize the network even more.
- Arathorn 5y agoElement really is not motivated to centralise. We're busy building P2P Matrix so that everyone can run their own server without thinking (by putting it in their app) - and matrix.org meanwhile is a huge cost which we ideally want to turn off (and will be able to once P2P lands).
- dotnet00 5y agoAh that's a good point, I entirely forgot about the work you're doing on P2P, looking forward to when that's mature!