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Some more context on Mr. Davis in this interesting article: https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-curious-case-of-daryl-davis-the-black-man-befriending-members-of-t

Some more context on Mr. Davis in this interesting article: https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-curious-case-of-daryl-davis-the-black-man-befriending-members-of-the-kkk https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-curious-case-of-daryl-davi... The efficacy of his approach is worth investigating beyond the just-so descriptives used in your comment and the wikipedia article. Many of the people he claims to have converted are still avowed racists and klansmen.

prohobo 5y ago
Your immediate response is to try to attack his credibility? > Many of the people he claims to have converted are still avowed racists and klansmen. Where in the article did you get that? I'm sure some have "relapsed" for one reason or another, but that's not what was said here. Also, what are you expecting exactly? 100% efficacy where they all turn into boy scouts? Have you ever worked with the homeless, or any kind of damaged people, gangs, etc. before? The "just-so" candour I use in this is because it's a well known and practiced approach in urban outreach programs that actually works to help people. He's aiding and abetting the neo-Nazi movement by working to get many of them to doubt their negative beliefs - and putting in a good word for a couple of them in court? This is golden bullshit, let's see the stats!
- weeblewobble 5y ago
  you yourself brought him up as someone to emulate if we want to fight racial discord. it seems to me that the efficacy of his methods are relevant to someone evaluating your claims. you say "let's see the stats"-- I agree, I'd like to see them. I'm skeptical. The stories in the article I linked (that racists he "converted" are actually using him as a shield while laughing at him in private) directly contradict your point. Maybe those stories are wrong. I'm open minded to that. But you and the wikipedia article you linked certainly haven't convinced me. When I say his story as told by you is "just-so", what I mean is that it's reductive, incurious, inch-deep. "Candour" is an odd way to describe stenographical repetition of the same blurbs he uses to get booked as a paid speaker. There's a real telling moment where he takes the time to straighten a klansman's white hood. People who are reading this comment are probably wondering if I'm joking right now. I encourage you to look into it

prohobo 5y ago

Your immediate response is to try to attack his credibility? > Many of the people he claims to have converted are still avowed racists and klansmen. Where in the article did you get that? I'm sure some have "relapsed" for one reason or another, but that's not what was said here. Also, what are you expecting exactly? 100% efficacy where they all turn into boy scouts? Have you ever worked with the homeless, or any kind of damaged people, gangs, etc. before? The "just-so" candour I use in this is because it's a well known and practiced approach in urban outreach programs that actually works to help people. He's aiding and abetting the neo-Nazi movement by working to get many of them to doubt their negative beliefs - and putting in a good word for a couple of them in court? This is golden bullshit, let's see the stats!

weeblewobble 5y ago
you yourself brought him up as someone to emulate if we want to fight racial discord. it seems to me that the efficacy of his methods are relevant to someone evaluating your claims. you say "let's see the stats"-- I agree, I'd like to see them. I'm skeptical. The stories in the article I linked (that racists he "converted" are actually using him as a shield while laughing at him in private) directly contradict your point. Maybe those stories are wrong. I'm open minded to that. But you and the wikipedia article you linked certainly haven't convinced me. When I say his story as told by you is "just-so", what I mean is that it's reductive, incurious, inch-deep. "Candour" is an odd way to describe stenographical repetition of the same blurbs he uses to get booked as a paid speaker. There's a real telling moment where he takes the time to straighten a klansman's white hood. People who are reading this comment are probably wondering if I'm joking right now. I encourage you to look into it