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> there is no violence, and no obvious danger A number of illegal weapons, high capacity magazines, and a large quantity of ammunition were seized in a blockad

> there is no violence, and no obvious danger A number of illegal weapons, high capacity magazines, and a large quantity of ammunition were seized in a blockade in Alberta. I would not be surprised if there are people with weapons in Ottawa as well, waiting for an opportunity to strike. https://globalnews.ca/news/8618494/alberta-coutts-border-protest-weapons-ammunition-seized/ https://globalnews.ca/news/8618494/alberta-coutts-border-pro...

newsclues 5y ago
Painting with broad strokes is dangerous.
- joseph8th 5y ago
  "How dare you use my words and actions against me!"
- alex_anglin 5y ago
  When asking if anyone in the protest had firearms, a journalist was ejected from a news conference. Would have been a good opportunity to disavow violence, but here we are. In this case, it's not so much painting with broad strokes as much as judging by the company they keep. Source: https://twitter.com/alexboutilier/status/1493319507846176769?cxt=HHwWgoCplcaLq7kpAAAA https://twitter.com/alexboutilier/status/1493319507846176769...
rpaldb 5y ago
tablespoon 5y ago
> A number of illegal weapons...were seized in a blockade in Alberta. > https://globalnews.ca/news/8618494/alberta-coutts-border-protest-weapons-ammunition-seized/ https://globalnews.ca/news/8618494/alberta-coutts-border-pro... Your link doesn't describe anything as "illegal weapons." It just says "long guns" and "handguns" which are both pretty broad terms that undoubtedly encompass guns that are legal in Canada.
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  By definition a handgun not in storage or in transport to a shooting range is an illegal weapon in Canada.
- smnrchrds 5y ago
  Handguns require a license to transport (ATT). Even if they were acquired legally (and that's a very big if because of RPAL), their presence at the border is very illegal.
- klyrs 5y ago
  Most hand guns are prohibited[0] weapons in Canada. You need explicit authorization to transport [2] prohibited weapons. There are pretty strict rules[3] for how they're to be transported, too. You're not just allowed to drive around with handguns rattling around in the car, this isn't the US. Large capacity magazines are illegal in almost all cases [1]. Even that machete might be illegal given the context [4]. [0] https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/classes-firearms https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/classes-firearms [1] https://www.grc-rcmp.gc.ca/en/firearms/maximum-permitted-magazine-capacity https://www.grc-rcmp.gc.ca/en/firearms/maximum-permitted-mag... [2] https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/authorization-transport https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/authorization-transpo... [3] https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/storing-transporting-and-displaying-firearms https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/storing-transporting-... [4] https://cubetoronto.com/canada/are-machetes-illegal-in-canada/ https://cubetoronto.com/canada/are-machetes-illegal-in-canad...
  - HWR_14 5y ago
    A machete may be considered a weapon in certain contexts, but that's not a unique law. The US also reclassifies things as weapons once they are used as weapons (in that instance.) Attack someone with a machete and it suddenly becomes a deadly weapon.
    - klyrs 5y ago
      Canada bans a lot of weapons for looking "scary" -- nunchuks and butterfly knives for example (both of which are rather notoriously more dangerous to the person wielding them than anybody else). Americans who come to Canada are frequently surprised by the different laws up here. Yes, an attack with a machete renders it illegal in both countries. A concealed machete is illegal in Canada, regardless of intent or use. I'm not so sure about the US (especially with the variance among state laws)
slavboj 5y ago
Surprisingly, despite "a willingness to use them against police", they didn't use them against police, so it's likelier than not that the story is made up or mischaracterized.
- threeseed 5y ago
  A lot of people will say they are willing to do something. But when their life is on the line they suddenly capitulate.
dukeofdoom 5y ago
What a convenient thing to happen on the very same day he is expected to announce the taking away of civil liberties of Canadians, and give themselves the right to seize property and equipment.
nec4b 5y ago
These are the people of the truck convoy who protest: https://twitter.com/MichaelPSenger/status/149273926633759539 https://twitter.com/MichaelPSenger/status/149273926633759539... Does it look like they are all packing and waiting to strike?
- smnrchrds 5y ago
  The tweet is deleted. Regardless, I am sure not "all" protesters are looking for violence, but the ones who brought weapons and ammo certainly did. And I am sure not all of them have been found and arrested.
  - nec4b 5y ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hISPJ5xuedM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hISPJ5xuedM

newsclues 5y ago

Painting with broad strokes is dangerous.

joseph8th 5y ago
"How dare you use my words and actions against me!"
alex_anglin 5y ago
When asking if anyone in the protest had firearms, a journalist was ejected from a news conference. Would have been a good opportunity to disavow violence, but here we are. In this case, it's not so much painting with broad strokes as much as judging by the company they keep. Source: https://twitter.com/alexboutilier/status/1493319507846176769?cxt=HHwWgoCplcaLq7kpAAAA https://twitter.com/alexboutilier/status/1493319507846176769...

rpaldb 5y ago

tablespoon 5y ago

> A number of illegal weapons...were seized in a blockade in Alberta. > https://globalnews.ca/news/8618494/alberta-coutts-border-protest-weapons-ammunition-seized/ https://globalnews.ca/news/8618494/alberta-coutts-border-pro... Your link doesn't describe anything as "illegal weapons." It just says "long guns" and "handguns" which are both pretty broad terms that undoubtedly encompass guns that are legal in Canada.

sudosysgen 5y ago
By definition a handgun not in storage or in transport to a shooting range is an illegal weapon in Canada.
smnrchrds 5y ago
Handguns require a license to transport (ATT). Even if they were acquired legally (and that's a very big if because of RPAL), their presence at the border is very illegal.
klyrs 5y ago
Most hand guns are prohibited[0] weapons in Canada. You need explicit authorization to transport [2] prohibited weapons. There are pretty strict rules[3] for how they're to be transported, too. You're not just allowed to drive around with handguns rattling around in the car, this isn't the US. Large capacity magazines are illegal in almost all cases [1]. Even that machete might be illegal given the context [4]. [0] https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/classes-firearms https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/classes-firearms [1] https://www.grc-rcmp.gc.ca/en/firearms/maximum-permitted-magazine-capacity https://www.grc-rcmp.gc.ca/en/firearms/maximum-permitted-mag... [2] https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/authorization-transport https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/authorization-transpo... [3] https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/storing-transporting-and-displaying-firearms https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/storing-transporting-... [4] https://cubetoronto.com/canada/are-machetes-illegal-in-canada/ https://cubetoronto.com/canada/are-machetes-illegal-in-canad...
- HWR_14 5y ago
  A machete may be considered a weapon in certain contexts, but that's not a unique law. The US also reclassifies things as weapons once they are used as weapons (in that instance.) Attack someone with a machete and it suddenly becomes a deadly weapon.
  - klyrs 5y ago
    Canada bans a lot of weapons for looking "scary" -- nunchuks and butterfly knives for example (both of which are rather notoriously more dangerous to the person wielding them than anybody else). Americans who come to Canada are frequently surprised by the different laws up here. Yes, an attack with a machete renders it illegal in both countries. A concealed machete is illegal in Canada, regardless of intent or use. I'm not so sure about the US (especially with the variance among state laws)

slavboj 5y ago

Surprisingly, despite "a willingness to use them against police", they didn't use them against police, so it's likelier than not that the story is made up or mischaracterized.

threeseed 5y ago
A lot of people will say they are willing to do something. But when their life is on the line they suddenly capitulate.

dukeofdoom 5y ago

What a convenient thing to happen on the very same day he is expected to announce the taking away of civil liberties of Canadians, and give themselves the right to seize property and equipment.

nec4b 5y ago

These are the people of the truck convoy who protest: https://twitter.com/MichaelPSenger/status/149273926633759539 https://twitter.com/MichaelPSenger/status/149273926633759539... Does it look like they are all packing and waiting to strike?

smnrchrds 5y ago
The tweet is deleted. Regardless, I am sure not "all" protesters are looking for violence, but the ones who brought weapons and ammo certainly did. And I am sure not all of them have been found and arrested.
- nec4b 5y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hISPJ5xuedM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hISPJ5xuedM