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Unfortunately not available to compare on https://www.programmingfonts.org/ https://www.programmingfonts.org/ While I'm here: Victor Mono has been my programmi

by kbd 5y ago

Unfortunately not available to compare on https://www.programmingfonts.org/ https://www.programmingfonts.org/ While I'm here: Victor Mono has been my programming font of choice for a while now: https://rubjo.github.io/victor-mono/ https://rubjo.github.io/victor-mono/ Oh, look at that, the Victor Mono homepage has a font comparison slider that allows you to compare it to MonoLisa! MonoLisa advertises that it's wider than other monospace fonts, and you can really see that in the comparison. One of the things I appreciate about Victor Mono is that it is narrower than many other monospace fonts (while still being very readable), allowing you to fit more code side-by-side.

contingencies 5y ago
IMHO Airbus' effort is better. https://github.com/polarsys/b612 https://github.com/polarsys/b612 Serifs are known to be less readable on screens. Each to their own but to me that MonoLisa thing is sort of half-serif... it's ... inconsistent and terrible. Possibly a joke.
- blindmute 5y ago
  On low resolution screens, yes. If you have a 2k or better monitor I would encourage you to test this out again. I have found that serifs are now actually easier to read than non, for the same reasons they are easier to read on paper.
  - contingencies 5y ago
    An interesting perspective with which I respectfully disagree. I have high dpi displays (who doesn't?) but prefer sans. I think it's near-universal these days. Everyone is using them for logos too. There's a reason: legibility, everywhere, including for non-native readers. In a global world, one must prioritize clarity. See https://design.tutsplus.com/articles/the-rise-of-the-sans-serif--cms-33548 https://design.tutsplus.com/articles/the-rise-of-the-sans-se... and https://developer.apple.com/fonts/ https://developer.apple.com/fonts/
    - blindmute 5y ago
      I read the links. I don't believe that brand designers are optimizing for legibility, unless there's some real study showing sans is easier to read body text with. Designers just follow trends that have nothing to do with user experiences. People switching logos to sans are the same types of people coming up with "Metamates"; just people chasing corporate dogmas. Some data: https://www.gwern.net/AB-testing#fonts https://www.gwern.net/AB-testing#fonts
      - contingencies 5y ago
        That gwern page is mostly rambling IMHO. Yes, there is a documented association between serifs and trust, but it is weak and mostly tested in print IIRC. I think you may be throwing the baby (real and objective improvement) out with the bathwater (fads) in the design world. There is substance there. I suggest https://watchdocumentaries.com/helvetica/ https://watchdocumentaries.com/helvetica/
kevwil 5y ago
Thanks. A bit narrow for my tastes but I'm impressed by the semi-cursive italic idea. Clever. Giving it a try right now!
rbanffy 5y ago
I don't know why anyone would even bother to even go beyond the first item on the list. Such beauty, such elegant geometry, such timeless classic lines. Truly an elegant font for a more civilized time. https://www.programmingfonts.org/#font3270 https://www.programmingfonts.org/#font3270 BTW, I'm also a huge fan of Luxi Mono, but I edit it and add a dot in the middle of the zero to make it different from the O. I like it because it reminds me a bit of the Sun console font (which I always forget the name). I could also go with Go Mono, which is mostly the same, but has a slashed zero. edit: if you hate my font, just don't use it. You don't have to downvote this. ;-)
- 1_player 5y ago
  It's a good font for those that think that the world and computer technology peaked in 1971. I don't share that opinion.
  - rbanffy 5y ago
    I don't think it necessarily peaked, but the IBM PC represents an inflection point - it was built on top of the office equipment more cozy aesthetics rather than the computer division's cleaner and minimalistic visual identity. The PC has a George Gershwin vibe while the terminals such as the 3278 have a definite Emerson, Lake and Palmer techo-utopia thing to it.
- Accacin 5y ago
  I'm a huge fan of that font, it looks great and there's a Nerd Font version of it available.
- jupp0r 5y ago
  I really don't like it, but thanks for sharing it anyway (and creating it in the first place I guess).
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- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 5y ago
itslennysfault 5y ago
ooooo thanks for the recommendation. MonoLisa is pretty, but not $70 pretty. Especially when this is just as good (maybe better?) and I can just toss the author whatever I want.
- kbd 5y ago
  Agree, I bought some merch from the author as thanks :)
michaelcampbell 5y ago
Victor mono is definitely not my thing, but thanks for pointing it out. I am quite fickle with typefaces so maybe one day this one will be the one I use for a few months.
melissalobos 5y ago
I like it except for the ligatures with the < and /'s. Thanks for the recommendation, it encouraged me to revisit my font choices.
BeefWellington 5y ago
> While I'm here: Victor Mono has been my programming font of choice for a while now: https://rubjo.github.io/victor-mono/ https://rubjo.github.io/victor-mono/ This is an aside but it makes it really difficult to me to enjoy when the site requires javascript to show me a typeface.
junon 5y ago
Thank you, this one actually helps me read quite a bit.
cormullion 5y ago
Another site for comparing fonts is the excellent https://devfonts.gafi.dev/ https://devfonts.gafi.dev/. This also doesn't have MonoLisa, though.
shp0ngle 5y ago
Just add it there! It's on github https://github.com/braver/programmingfonts https://github.com/braver/programmingfonts edit: ahhh it's a paid font. so nope
KronisLV 5y ago
That's a lovely site! My own favorite programming fonts of choice at the time are either Liberation Mono (https://www.programmingfonts.org/#liberation https://www.programmingfonts.org/#liberation) or Cousine (https://www.programmingfonts.org/#cousine https://www.programmingfonts.org/#cousine) the latter of which builds upon the former. They're delightfully boring, are readable at smaller sizes, have a good Unicode support, don't seem to have ligatures so i don't have to bother disabling them (personal preference) and are completely free. Plus they can be used to work with code that has large information density (think legacy Java apps) without causing strain on my eyes due to their simple look.
pps 5y ago
Zeitung Mono Pro for me, rarely mentioned anywhere https://www.underware.nl/fonts/zeitung_mono/buy https://www.underware.nl/fonts/zeitung_mono/buy
- replwoacause 5y ago
  Very nice, but it's probably rarely mentioned because the whole family costs $284 USD.
iCarrot 5y ago
Have been using Victor Mono for a year now, that Victor Mono demo on programmingfonts.org definitely does not look like what I'm used to. Looks like the medium weighted Victor Mono.
NylaTheWolf 5y ago
...so was anyone going to tell me that that site existed or was I supposed to find out myself? This is actually awesome, thank you for sharing!
hunterb123 5y ago
Thanks for the resource, that's a cool site!
Ezku 5y ago
Oh, this was a new one for me. In case you like narrow but Victor’s not your thing, I can enthusiastically point you towards Iosevka. (That’s also available in Victor’s comparison picker. Nice!)
- daliusd 5y ago
  I love both Iosevka and Victor Mono, but ended using Victor Mono because it has script version for italics.
  - byteski 5y ago
    Does Victor Mono have nerd font support? Bc Iosevka does
    - kbd 5y ago
      $ brew tap-info "homebrew/cask-fonts" --json | jq -r '.[].cask_tokens[]' | rg victor homebrew/cask-fonts/font-victor-mono-nerd-font homebrew/cask-fonts/font-victor-mono
  - ihateolives 5y ago
    That's exactly the thing I hate about it. Base font is good, but god, the script!
jck 5y ago
Thanks for the victor mono recommendation. It looks really good! I was blown away by how narrow it was compared to other forms in the comparison tool. Side note: it's a bummer that you never see Monaco on these comparison tools. Monaco has been my monospace font of choice for many years now despite never owning a Macbook: https://github.com/cseelus/monego https://github.com/cseelus/monego
- cywick 5y ago
  I, too, have a very strong preference for Monaco. I always wondered whether the font is indeed as great as I think it is, or whether I just like it so much, because I had already used it for 5-10 years before I ever consciously looked at other monospaced fonts. It's great to hear that you intentionally chose it without having already been adapted to it.

by kbd 5y ago

contingencies 5y ago

IMHO Airbus' effort is better. https://github.com/polarsys/b612 https://github.com/polarsys/b612 Serifs are known to be less readable on screens. Each to their own but to me that MonoLisa thing is sort of half-serif... it's ... inconsistent and terrible. Possibly a joke.

blindmute 5y ago
On low resolution screens, yes. If you have a 2k or better monitor I would encourage you to test this out again. I have found that serifs are now actually easier to read than non, for the same reasons they are easier to read on paper.
- contingencies 5y ago
  An interesting perspective with which I respectfully disagree. I have high dpi displays (who doesn't?) but prefer sans. I think it's near-universal these days. Everyone is using them for logos too. There's a reason: legibility, everywhere, including for non-native readers. In a global world, one must prioritize clarity. See https://design.tutsplus.com/articles/the-rise-of-the-sans-serif--cms-33548 https://design.tutsplus.com/articles/the-rise-of-the-sans-se... and https://developer.apple.com/fonts/ https://developer.apple.com/fonts/
  - blindmute 5y ago
    I read the links. I don't believe that brand designers are optimizing for legibility, unless there's some real study showing sans is easier to read body text with. Designers just follow trends that have nothing to do with user experiences. People switching logos to sans are the same types of people coming up with "Metamates"; just people chasing corporate dogmas. Some data: https://www.gwern.net/AB-testing#fonts https://www.gwern.net/AB-testing#fonts
    - contingencies 5y ago
      That gwern page is mostly rambling IMHO. Yes, there is a documented association between serifs and trust, but it is weak and mostly tested in print IIRC. I think you may be throwing the baby (real and objective improvement) out with the bathwater (fads) in the design world. There is substance there. I suggest https://watchdocumentaries.com/helvetica/ https://watchdocumentaries.com/helvetica/

kevwil 5y ago

Thanks. A bit narrow for my tastes but I'm impressed by the semi-cursive italic idea. Clever. Giving it a try right now!

rbanffy 5y ago

I don't know why anyone would even bother to even go beyond the first item on the list. Such beauty, such elegant geometry, such timeless classic lines. Truly an elegant font for a more civilized time. https://www.programmingfonts.org/#font3270 https://www.programmingfonts.org/#font3270 BTW, I'm also a huge fan of Luxi Mono, but I edit it and add a dot in the middle of the zero to make it different from the O. I like it because it reminds me a bit of the Sun console font (which I always forget the name). I could also go with Go Mono, which is mostly the same, but has a slashed zero. edit: if you hate my font, just don't use it. You don't have to downvote this. ;-)

1_player 5y ago
It's a good font for those that think that the world and computer technology peaked in 1971. I don't share that opinion.
- rbanffy 5y ago
  I don't think it necessarily peaked, but the IBM PC represents an inflection point - it was built on top of the office equipment more cozy aesthetics rather than the computer division's cleaner and minimalistic visual identity. The PC has a George Gershwin vibe while the terminals such as the 3278 have a definite Emerson, Lake and Palmer techo-utopia thing to it.
Accacin 5y ago
I'm a huge fan of that font, it looks great and there's a Nerd Font version of it available.
jupp0r 5y ago
I really don't like it, but thanks for sharing it anyway (and creating it in the first place I guess).
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itslennysfault 5y ago

ooooo thanks for the recommendation. MonoLisa is pretty, but not $70 pretty. Especially when this is just as good (maybe better?) and I can just toss the author whatever I want.

kbd 5y ago
Agree, I bought some merch from the author as thanks :)

michaelcampbell 5y ago

Victor mono is definitely not my thing, but thanks for pointing it out. I am quite fickle with typefaces so maybe one day this one will be the one I use for a few months.

melissalobos 5y ago

I like it except for the ligatures with the < and /'s. Thanks for the recommendation, it encouraged me to revisit my font choices.

BeefWellington 5y ago

> While I'm here: Victor Mono has been my programming font of choice for a while now: https://rubjo.github.io/victor-mono/ https://rubjo.github.io/victor-mono/ This is an aside but it makes it really difficult to me to enjoy when the site requires javascript to show me a typeface.

junon 5y ago

Thank you, this one actually helps me read quite a bit.

cormullion 5y ago

Another site for comparing fonts is the excellent https://devfonts.gafi.dev/ https://devfonts.gafi.dev/. This also doesn't have MonoLisa, though.

shp0ngle 5y ago

Just add it there! It's on github https://github.com/braver/programmingfonts https://github.com/braver/programmingfonts edit: ahhh it's a paid font. so nope

KronisLV 5y ago

That's a lovely site! My own favorite programming fonts of choice at the time are either Liberation Mono (https://www.programmingfonts.org/#liberation https://www.programmingfonts.org/#liberation) or Cousine (https://www.programmingfonts.org/#cousine https://www.programmingfonts.org/#cousine) the latter of which builds upon the former. They're delightfully boring, are readable at smaller sizes, have a good Unicode support, don't seem to have ligatures so i don't have to bother disabling them (personal preference) and are completely free. Plus they can be used to work with code that has large information density (think legacy Java apps) without causing strain on my eyes due to their simple look.

pps 5y ago

Zeitung Mono Pro for me, rarely mentioned anywhere https://www.underware.nl/fonts/zeitung_mono/buy https://www.underware.nl/fonts/zeitung_mono/buy

replwoacause 5y ago
Very nice, but it's probably rarely mentioned because the whole family costs $284 USD.

iCarrot 5y ago

Have been using Victor Mono for a year now, that Victor Mono demo on programmingfonts.org definitely does not look like what I'm used to. Looks like the medium weighted Victor Mono.

NylaTheWolf 5y ago

...so was anyone going to tell me that that site existed or was I supposed to find out myself? This is actually awesome, thank you for sharing!

hunterb123 5y ago

Thanks for the resource, that's a cool site!

Ezku 5y ago

Oh, this was a new one for me. In case you like narrow but Victor’s not your thing, I can enthusiastically point you towards Iosevka. (That’s also available in Victor’s comparison picker. Nice!)

daliusd 5y ago
I love both Iosevka and Victor Mono, but ended using Victor Mono because it has script version for italics.
- byteski 5y ago
  Does Victor Mono have nerd font support? Bc Iosevka does
  - kbd 5y ago
    $ brew tap-info "homebrew/cask-fonts" --json | jq -r '.[].cask_tokens[]' | rg victor homebrew/cask-fonts/font-victor-mono-nerd-font homebrew/cask-fonts/font-victor-mono
- ihateolives 5y ago
  That's exactly the thing I hate about it. Base font is good, but god, the script!

jck 5y ago

Thanks for the victor mono recommendation. It looks really good! I was blown away by how narrow it was compared to other forms in the comparison tool. Side note: it's a bummer that you never see Monaco on these comparison tools. Monaco has been my monospace font of choice for many years now despite never owning a Macbook: https://github.com/cseelus/monego https://github.com/cseelus/monego

cywick 5y ago
I, too, have a very strong preference for Monaco. I always wondered whether the font is indeed as great as I think it is, or whether I just like it so much, because I had already used it for 5-10 years before I ever consciously looked at other monospaced fonts. It's great to hear that you intentionally chose it without having already been adapted to it.