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Sleep deprivation and continuous noise is considered torture under Geneva Convention and by the U.N.[1] and Canadian law[2]. U.S. and others have been condemned
by manquer 5y ago
Sleep deprivation and continuous noise is considered torture under Geneva Convention and by the U.N.[1] and Canadian law[2]. U.S. and others have been condemned heavily for using such techniques and U.S. has since stopped (at least officially) even in black ops places like Gitmo.
Protests and blockade are one thing, continuous noise in areas where people live and work is not peaceful .
[1] https://tbinternet.ohchr.org/Treaties/CAT/Shared%20Documents/UKR/CAT_C_UKR_CO_6_18892_E.pdf https://tbinternet.ohchr.org/Treaties/CAT/Shared%20Documents...
[2] https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/yes-sleep-deprivation-is-torture/ https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/yes-sleep-deprivation-is-tor...
- throwaway894345 5y ago
- sudosysgen 5y agoIf your noisy neighbor was setting of a blowhorn with a high duty cycle for multiple days with the express intent to cause harm to you, it would probably be fair to call that some form of assault.
- throwaway894345 5y ago> with the express intent to cause harm Citation?
- sudosysgen 5y agoDo I need a citation that people honking to cause a distrubance intended to disturb?
- throwaway894345 5y ago> Do I need a citation that people honking to cause a distrubance intended to disturb? Wow, that's quite a comment and a remarkably transparent backpedaling from "intent to cause harm".
- sudosysgen 5y agoFrom the Merriam Webster, Disturbance, 2) : noisy or violent activity : commotion
- throwaway894345 5y agoGood grief. Yes, a disturbance can refer to noise or violence, but that doesn't imply that a noise is violence. This is the lowest quality argumentation I've seen on this site for a while.
- sudosysgen 5y agoI'm giving a definition that applies to my own words. That's the way I meant distrubance. Also, it's not because something isn't violent that it isn't harmful.
- throwaway894345 5y agoYou specifically likened it to assault. A noisy protest is annoying and it can disturb the quiet but it isn’t harmful in any sense that could be considered assault.
- sudosysgen 5y agoAs with anything, there is nuance. A noisy protest is merely annoying, a 140dB train horn less than ten meters away is assault.
- throwaway894345 5y agoGranted. Arrest the people with the 140dB train horns.
- sudosysgen 5y agoI'm glad we agree. We should also fine people that are using otherwise reglementory horns in order to cause a nuisance, as we normally do.
- toqy 5y agoIt sucks that your neighbor has gathered many large trucks and is honking them for 18 hours a day in order to compel you to do something. Why isn't anyone doing anything about it? Now that you know you're being tortured what are your plans?
- throwaway894345 5y agoIt seems super disingenuous to imply that noisy protests are "violent" by citing laws and regulations which pertain to the treatment of detainees. Our media entertained a serious debate about whether looting or burning a neighborhood to the ground was "violence" or not, and the many preferred to refer to these events as "fiery but mostly peaceful protests". How did we go from that to tenuous analogies of torture?