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I totally understand your concern about sharing things that might hurt you in the future. Anyway, I guess the Washington Post Reader wasn't designed for a lot o

by orijing 15y ago

I totally understand your concern about sharing things that might hurt you in the future. Anyway, I guess the Washington Post Reader wasn't designed for a lot of people like you, so there's nothing lost from not installing the app. But I have lots of friends who do love sharing all the articles they read, so to each his own. I sympathize with people's concern about apps requesting more permissions than they need to do their job, but here, "sharing articles I've read" is a core part of what the product is. So if you don't install the app, and I do, what's the problem?

X-Istence 15y ago
Looking at where we have come from and where we are moving towards... There are already webapps that require logins using Facebook connect and provide no alternate means for me to login (I've started creating many a fake Facebook account) and require a whole laundry list of permissions. It won't be too hard to in the future see that people are going to gloss over what permissions they are giving away so that they can get to their free article from the NYT or the Post. This slow erosion is exactly what I am worried about. That is how the United States is slowly losing all forms of civil liberties and are slowly becoming a police state. Naked scanners at airports didn't just suddenly happen, it was a long process with some fear thrown in from some stupid jackass with an underwear bomb. DHS used fear to allow them to patrol 150 miles inland from the United States border. The patriot act keeps getting renewed and the only reason it passed was because of 9/11. No, saying "but it's okay right now, it won't do anything automatically unless you give it permission" doesn't help. Soon it will be "What do you have to hide? Permissions? The web is open..."
- Luyt 15y ago
  Say it like it is, brother! "The Eternal Value of Privacy" by Bruce Schneier, http://www.wired.com/politics/security/commentary/securitymatters/2006/05/70886 http://www.wired.com/politics/security/commentary/securityma... (article for Wired) "Why Privacy Matters Even if You Have 'Nothing to Hide'", http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461/ http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127... (for the Chronicle)
rhizome 15y ago
But I have lots of friends who do love sharing all the articles they read, so to each his own. Not to cast aspersions, and I really don't mean this personally (which would be impossible since I don't know you), but is it possible that these friends are simply boring people? There's always an unspoken corner-case (perhaps a "center-case"?) where there are people with nothing to hide. I'm not talking about extroverts and exhibitionists who don't care how their personalities translate to the commenting-online world, but those who watch the news, have a couple of kids, go see a Luke Wilson movie, etc. and that's the extent of their external lives. There are lots of perfectly contributing members of society who have no interest in politics or celebrity, play Bridge on Wednesdays with that awesome Chex Mix that Annie makes, and so on. Beware of selection bias.
meow 15y ago
Visiting an article need not be same as reading an article. Many times I end up clicking link baits with out knowing what they contain. So combined with auto posting, I'm increasing the noise for everyone without meaning to.

by orijing 15y ago

X-Istence 15y ago

Looking at where we have come from and where we are moving towards... There are already webapps that require logins using Facebook connect and provide no alternate means for me to login (I've started creating many a fake Facebook account) and require a whole laundry list of permissions. It won't be too hard to in the future see that people are going to gloss over what permissions they are giving away so that they can get to their free article from the NYT or the Post. This slow erosion is exactly what I am worried about. That is how the United States is slowly losing all forms of civil liberties and are slowly becoming a police state. Naked scanners at airports didn't just suddenly happen, it was a long process with some fear thrown in from some stupid jackass with an underwear bomb. DHS used fear to allow them to patrol 150 miles inland from the United States border. The patriot act keeps getting renewed and the only reason it passed was because of 9/11. No, saying "but it's okay right now, it won't do anything automatically unless you give it permission" doesn't help. Soon it will be "What do you have to hide? Permissions? The web is open..."

Luyt 15y ago
Say it like it is, brother! "The Eternal Value of Privacy" by Bruce Schneier, http://www.wired.com/politics/security/commentary/securitymatters/2006/05/70886 http://www.wired.com/politics/security/commentary/securityma... (article for Wired) "Why Privacy Matters Even if You Have 'Nothing to Hide'", http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461/ http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127... (for the Chronicle)

rhizome 15y ago

But I have lots of friends who do love sharing all the articles they read, so to each his own. Not to cast aspersions, and I really don't mean this personally (which would be impossible since I don't know you), but is it possible that these friends are simply boring people? There's always an unspoken corner-case (perhaps a "center-case"?) where there are people with nothing to hide. I'm not talking about extroverts and exhibitionists who don't care how their personalities translate to the commenting-online world, but those who watch the news, have a couple of kids, go see a Luke Wilson movie, etc. and that's the extent of their external lives. There are lots of perfectly contributing members of society who have no interest in politics or celebrity, play Bridge on Wednesdays with that awesome Chex Mix that Annie makes, and so on. Beware of selection bias.

meow 15y ago

Visiting an article need not be same as reading an article. Many times I end up clicking link baits with out knowing what they contain. So combined with auto posting, I'm increasing the noise for everyone without meaning to.