> I want a future of abundant and cheap energy. We are talking about drying clothes. The sun (and wind) _is_ abundant and free for at least some part of year (

> I want a future of abundant and cheap energy. We are talking about drying clothes. The sun (and wind) _is_ abundant and free for at least some part of year (yes, depending on your location). I'm not talking about not using dryers any more at all, but that it is quite easy to not always use one. And most people in 'developed nations' still don't use one. I've just found some data for Germany: 43% of households in Germany have had a dryer in 2021. https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/516868/umfrage/private-haushalte-in-deutschland-mit-waeschetrockner/ https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/516868/umfrag... In the UK the numbers are higher: 58% of households in 2018 https://www.statista.com/statistics/289140/tumble-dryers-in-households-in-the-uk/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/289140/tumble-dryers-in-... Numbers from the 90s: USA: 72% Belgium: 39% UK: 32% Netherlands: 27% Switzerland: 27% West Germany: 17% France: 12% Italy: 10% Spain: 5% https://www.infoplease.com/world/economic-statistics/percent-households-owning-selected-appliances https://www.infoplease.com/world/economic-statistics/percent... > Energy use is not the problem. Not necessarily directly, no. But somebody needs to build and maintain 'stuff' that generates, 'transports' and uses this energy. So in the end there is a need for more of many other resources too.