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This article provides nothing new to me, my current company has it all and I don’t like Does anyone here actually feel personal goal setting as beneficial anyh

This article provides nothing new to me, my current company has it all and I don’t like Does anyone here actually feel personal goal setting as beneficial anyhow?

Trasmatta 5y ago
I hate goal setting. Goals plain don't work, except for maybe as a way to set your direction.
DerArzt 5y ago
It's beneficial to your manager in that they can tell you exactly what to write on your "personal goals list" and then string you up with those words come review time when they weren't met due to things out of your control and they will feel like the onus is on you for not delivering.
openknot 5y ago
>Does anyone here actually feel personal goal setting as beneficial anyhow? Personal goal setting has helped me a lot, though I haven't developed many personal goals at the request of a supervisor (they're created just for myself). The assumptions that make personal goal setting work are: i) Time and energy is limited, so I can't pursue all my interests at once. ii) If time isn't made for personal goals, they won't happen, as requests from other people (or unfocused activity) will occupy my attention. iii) By keeping goals in mind, it's easier to maintain boundaries on time, by politely declining certain tasks or opportunities to focus on my goals. This has helped with developing skills outside the workplace (which have indirectly helped with my work), as it provides clarity whenever there is uncertainty about how to spend time and energy when there isn't external structure. In a past workplace, I've set personal goals with a non-technical supervisor (e.g. suggestions to add features to a website). This helped with skill development and showed initiative that was appreciated, as the supervisor wouldn't have thought about these potential features (as their primary responsibilities weren't in development).
wpietri 5y ago
I don't. But I have found it useful to think about personal development in a kanban-like sense, with various queues and WIP limits. E.g. for physical/health stuff, I have a limit of 1 must-do change and 1 stretch-goal change. My stretch goal for December was moving back toward intermitting fasting. That went well, so my main goal for January was doing the intermittent fasting for real. That also went well, so my main February goal was about starting to train for an upcoming race. I have a whole backlog of physical/health goals that I could do. Having a WIP limit forces me to decide what's most important when a slot open up. That involves a bunch of thinking about goal-like things, but in a way that makes more sense to me. It also helps me balance desire with capacity; when I tried goal-setting outside of a kanban-like framework, it was easy for me to dream big and then crash when I couldn't hit the goals.

This article provides nothing new to me, my current company has it all and I don’t like Does anyone here actually feel personal goal setting as beneficial anyhow?

Trasmatta 5y ago

I hate goal setting. Goals plain don't work, except for maybe as a way to set your direction.

DerArzt 5y ago

It's beneficial to your manager in that they can tell you exactly what to write on your "personal goals list" and then string you up with those words come review time when they weren't met due to things out of your control and they will feel like the onus is on you for not delivering.

openknot 5y ago

>Does anyone here actually feel personal goal setting as beneficial anyhow? Personal goal setting has helped me a lot, though I haven't developed many personal goals at the request of a supervisor (they're created just for myself). The assumptions that make personal goal setting work are: i) Time and energy is limited, so I can't pursue all my interests at once. ii) If time isn't made for personal goals, they won't happen, as requests from other people (or unfocused activity) will occupy my attention. iii) By keeping goals in mind, it's easier to maintain boundaries on time, by politely declining certain tasks or opportunities to focus on my goals. This has helped with developing skills outside the workplace (which have indirectly helped with my work), as it provides clarity whenever there is uncertainty about how to spend time and energy when there isn't external structure. In a past workplace, I've set personal goals with a non-technical supervisor (e.g. suggestions to add features to a website). This helped with skill development and showed initiative that was appreciated, as the supervisor wouldn't have thought about these potential features (as their primary responsibilities weren't in development).

wpietri 5y ago

I don't. But I have found it useful to think about personal development in a kanban-like sense, with various queues and WIP limits. E.g. for physical/health stuff, I have a limit of 1 must-do change and 1 stretch-goal change. My stretch goal for December was moving back toward intermitting fasting. That went well, so my main goal for January was doing the intermittent fasting for real. That also went well, so my main February goal was about starting to train for an upcoming race. I have a whole backlog of physical/health goals that I could do. Having a WIP limit forces me to decide what's most important when a slot open up. That involves a bunch of thinking about goal-like things, but in a way that makes more sense to me. It also helps me balance desire with capacity; when I tried goal-setting outside of a kanban-like framework, it was easy for me to dream big and then crash when I couldn't hit the goals.