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As a Canadian I humbly request Americans stay out of our politics, particularly when it comes to influencing them via monetary donations. Get your own house in

As a Canadian I humbly request Americans stay out of our politics, particularly when it comes to influencing them via monetary donations. Get your own house in order, don't encourage wannabe insurrectionists who had a manifesto to take over the government in blatantly undemocratic ways.

hunterb123 5y ago
As an American I'd love if we all stayed out of each other's politics, but that's not how the world works, sorry. That being said, a lot of Americans want freedom everywhere, especially for their neighbors in the north, what's so hard to understand about that? Btw, your insurrection claim is played out and laughable, there is no violence, use words properly. I look forward to seeing your comments about our 2022 midterm elections or our 2024 presidential election.
cf100clunk 5y ago
The U.S.A., and previously Great Britain, has always had an enormous political and economic influence on Canada, for better or for worse. Today we are being noticed in the U.S.A. because we're struggling. Having worked and traveled internationally for many years it is my opinion that at most times we, as a sovereign nation, rarely even occur to American minds. Such is life, and I'm okay with it.
yesco 5y ago
While I have not donated anything to this cause, as an American I fundamentally reject your humble request. The reality is that while in this moment you are against it, the second a protest is in your favor, I'm willing to bet you will turn a blind eye. Nearly all international charities are a form of foreign influence whether you agree with them or not, and your politicians are the ones happy to allow these charities to operate within your nation. If I support a cause within Canada and truly wish it the best, then I will donate to it, just like everyone else in the world already is. I do not support hypocrisy. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-trump-clinton-u-s-election-1.3837993 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-trump-clinton-u-s-el...
eindiran 5y ago
Looking through your recent comments, there are multiple examples of you commenting on American politics and monetary policy...
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  Sure. Did they give money to US politicians?
0xy 5y ago
The majority of the donors were Canadian, so presumably you're in favor of the multiple millions of dollars flowing to the group from Canadians?
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  You can look at the data - there were around twice as many foreign donations than Canadian ones.
  - 0xy 5y ago
    I did look at the data. $4,311,287 listed their country as Canada, and $4,110,520 were from other countries. [1] You're just wrong. Number of individual donors is irrelevant, the majority of cash is from Canada. [1] https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiODI3Y2UzMWQtMjE4MS00NjBiLWFkNjktY2VkMDM3MmUxYzM2IiwidCI6IjM1ZTI0MjQzLTQ5MjItNGYwYS04ODkxLTU2NjNjMzgzNjgxYSJ9 https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiODI3Y2UzMWQtMjE4MS00N...
    - sudosysgen 5y ago
      Neither of us are wrong. I looked at the number of donations, but yes you are correct the majority of the cash is from Canada.
BitwiseFool 5y ago
> particularly when it comes to influencing them via monetary donations Were any of the GiveSendGo funds marked towards supporting political candidates?
durovo 5y ago
That is ironic coming from a Canadian. Just recently, a lot of money poured in from Canada to support the farmer protest in India. Here is one example: https://www.gofundme.com/f/donatetofarmers https://www.gofundme.com/f/donatetofarmers PS: Not that I support the current Canadian protests. Edit: Some other examples: 1. https://globalnews.ca/news/7680005/farmers-india-protest-bills-canada/ https://globalnews.ca/news/7680005/farmers-india-protest-bil... 2. https://thewire.in/rights/justin-trudeau-farmers-protest-india https://thewire.in/rights/justin-trudeau-farmers-protest-ind... 3. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/farmers-protest-ends-bc-reax-1.6256715 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/farmers-prot...
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  As a matter of principle I agree with you, however there is also a large Indian diaspora in Canada and it's quite possible most of that money was donated by Indians; it doesn't make a lot of sense for a Canadian living in the US to donate the money from a US account though.
  - nonamechicken 5y ago
    I agree on the Indians in Canada donating part. But Canadian PM should have stayed away from making comments supporting the protest. https://thewire.in/rights/justin-trudeau-farmers-protest-india https://thewire.in/rights/justin-trudeau-farmers-protest-ind... Especially since some of these protestors are rumored to have backing of Khalistani separatists who have blown up an Air India flight in the past killing 329 people. https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/khalistan-terror-group-sfj-instigates-farmers-in-delhi-to-remove-tricolour-on-republic-day-1758674-2021-01-13 https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/khalistan-terror-group... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182
  - 8note 5y ago
    Similar applies for Canada and the US
- nonamechicken 5y ago
  As an Indian, this double standard was the most amusing thing for me in all these. When farmers in India protested, Canadian PM himself supported them (probably because he wanted the Sikh community votes?). Indian government only used police officers with batons and were sometimes chased away by the protesters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1qFKUtfvMc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1qFKUtfvMc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7so5TwIMyM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7so5TwIMyM Then yesterday I saw videos of heavily armed RCMP officers deployed to remove some of the blockades!

hunterb123 5y ago

As an American I'd love if we all stayed out of each other's politics, but that's not how the world works, sorry. That being said, a lot of Americans want freedom everywhere, especially for their neighbors in the north, what's so hard to understand about that? Btw, your insurrection claim is played out and laughable, there is no violence, use words properly. I look forward to seeing your comments about our 2022 midterm elections or our 2024 presidential election.

cf100clunk 5y ago

The U.S.A., and previously Great Britain, has always had an enormous political and economic influence on Canada, for better or for worse. Today we are being noticed in the U.S.A. because we're struggling. Having worked and traveled internationally for many years it is my opinion that at most times we, as a sovereign nation, rarely even occur to American minds. Such is life, and I'm okay with it.

yesco 5y ago

While I have not donated anything to this cause, as an American I fundamentally reject your humble request. The reality is that while in this moment you are against it, the second a protest is in your favor, I'm willing to bet you will turn a blind eye. Nearly all international charities are a form of foreign influence whether you agree with them or not, and your politicians are the ones happy to allow these charities to operate within your nation. If I support a cause within Canada and truly wish it the best, then I will donate to it, just like everyone else in the world already is. I do not support hypocrisy. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-trump-clinton-u-s-election-1.3837993 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-trump-clinton-u-s-el...

eindiran 5y ago

Looking through your recent comments, there are multiple examples of you commenting on American politics and monetary policy...

sudosysgen 5y ago
Sure. Did they give money to US politicians?

0xy 5y ago

The majority of the donors were Canadian, so presumably you're in favor of the multiple millions of dollars flowing to the group from Canadians?

sudosysgen 5y ago
You can look at the data - there were around twice as many foreign donations than Canadian ones.
- 0xy 5y ago
  I did look at the data. $4,311,287 listed their country as Canada, and $4,110,520 were from other countries. [1] You're just wrong. Number of individual donors is irrelevant, the majority of cash is from Canada. [1] https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiODI3Y2UzMWQtMjE4MS00NjBiLWFkNjktY2VkMDM3MmUxYzM2IiwidCI6IjM1ZTI0MjQzLTQ5MjItNGYwYS04ODkxLTU2NjNjMzgzNjgxYSJ9 https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiODI3Y2UzMWQtMjE4MS00N...
  - sudosysgen 5y ago
    Neither of us are wrong. I looked at the number of donations, but yes you are correct the majority of the cash is from Canada.

BitwiseFool 5y ago

> particularly when it comes to influencing them via monetary donations Were any of the GiveSendGo funds marked towards supporting political candidates?

durovo 5y ago

That is ironic coming from a Canadian. Just recently, a lot of money poured in from Canada to support the farmer protest in India. Here is one example: https://www.gofundme.com/f/donatetofarmers https://www.gofundme.com/f/donatetofarmers PS: Not that I support the current Canadian protests. Edit: Some other examples: 1. https://globalnews.ca/news/7680005/farmers-india-protest-bills-canada/ https://globalnews.ca/news/7680005/farmers-india-protest-bil... 2. https://thewire.in/rights/justin-trudeau-farmers-protest-india https://thewire.in/rights/justin-trudeau-farmers-protest-ind... 3. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/farmers-protest-ends-bc-reax-1.6256715 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/farmers-prot...

sudosysgen 5y ago
As a matter of principle I agree with you, however there is also a large Indian diaspora in Canada and it's quite possible most of that money was donated by Indians; it doesn't make a lot of sense for a Canadian living in the US to donate the money from a US account though.
- nonamechicken 5y ago
  I agree on the Indians in Canada donating part. But Canadian PM should have stayed away from making comments supporting the protest. https://thewire.in/rights/justin-trudeau-farmers-protest-india https://thewire.in/rights/justin-trudeau-farmers-protest-ind... Especially since some of these protestors are rumored to have backing of Khalistani separatists who have blown up an Air India flight in the past killing 329 people. https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/khalistan-terror-group-sfj-instigates-farmers-in-delhi-to-remove-tricolour-on-republic-day-1758674-2021-01-13 https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/khalistan-terror-group... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182
- 8note 5y ago
  Similar applies for Canada and the US
nonamechicken 5y ago
As an Indian, this double standard was the most amusing thing for me in all these. When farmers in India protested, Canadian PM himself supported them (probably because he wanted the Sikh community votes?). Indian government only used police officers with batons and were sometimes chased away by the protesters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1qFKUtfvMc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1qFKUtfvMc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7so5TwIMyM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7so5TwIMyM Then yesterday I saw videos of heavily armed RCMP officers deployed to remove some of the blockades!