8 ms·

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/coutts-protest-blockade-arrests-rcmp-monday-1.6351112 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/coutts-protest-blocka... Mo

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/coutts-protest-blockade-arrests-rcmp-monday-1.6351112 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/coutts-protest-blocka... Mounties said in a release Monday that they became aware of a small organized group within the larger protest at Coutts. They say they had information that the group had access to a cache of firearms and ammunition. Officers seized long guns, handguns, multiple sets of body armour, a machete, a large quantity of ammunition and high-capacity firearm magazines.

908B64B197 5y ago
Did they accidently query their own payroll? Trudeau's father had the Mounties plant bombs at civilians (Canadian citizens on Canadian soil) back in the 70's and tried to blame it on some political group to justify armed intervention [0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_controversies_involving_the_Royal_Canadian_Mounted_Police#Break-ins_and_bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_controversies_involvin...
cf100clunk 5y ago
This type of revelation will likely be commonplace in the days/weeks ahead as militant extremists are exposed.
- redisman 5y ago
  There will always be some opportunistic groups looking to cause more mayhem in chaotic situations like this. These protests have been literally “mostly peaceful” no?
  - cf100clunk 5y ago
    I got voted down for saying what you did but in a more terse, direct fashion. Too much heat in here with one-day HNers, yourself excepted.
    - jacquesm 5y ago
      one-day HN'ers can't downvote (400 Karma threshold)
  - ceejayoz 5y ago
    > These protests have been literally “mostly peaceful” no? That's fair, yes. Economically disruptive, but largely peaceful. I'd wager the left isn't going to pass "it's legal to run over protesters" in response to these, though. https://www.vox.com/2021/4/25/22367019/gop-laws-oklahoma-iowa-florida-floyd-blm-protests-police https://www.vox.com/2021/4/25/22367019/gop-laws-oklahoma-iow...
    - manquer 5y ago
      Sleep deprivation and continuous noise is considered torture under Geneva Convention and by the U.N.[1] and Canadian law[2]. U.S. and others have been condemned heavily for using such techniques and U.S. has since stopped (at least officially) even in black ops places like Gitmo. Protests and blockade are one thing, continuous noise in areas where people live and work is not peaceful . [1] https://tbinternet.ohchr.org/Treaties/CAT/Shared%20Documents/UKR/CAT_C_UKR_CO_6_18892_E.pdf https://tbinternet.ohchr.org/Treaties/CAT/Shared%20Documents... [2] https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/yes-sleep-deprivation-is-torture/ https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/yes-sleep-deprivation-is-tor...
      - throwaway894345 5y ago
        sudosysgen 5y ago
        If your noisy neighbor was setting of a blowhorn with a high duty cycle for multiple days with the express intent to cause harm to you, it would probably be fair to call that some form of assault.
        throwaway894345 5y ago
        > with the express intent to cause harm Citation?
        sudosysgen 5y ago
  - kerneloftruth 5y ago
    Yes. I've seen no evidence of stores being looted, businesses burned, or anybody throwing rocks at police -- all of which were common in 2020 BLM protests.
    - paulmd 5y ago
      Well, now you have. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-police-arson-investigation-fire-apartment-lobby-1.6342347 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-police-arson-in... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/coutts-protest-blockade-arrests-rcmp-monday-1.6351112 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/coutts-protest-blocka... As for the police - helps that a lot of them were tacitly helping the rioters. As usual, giving them fuel and supplies, and ignoring clear-cut violations of the law. Why throw rocks at an ally? Toronto and other cities may have shut them down, but the Ottawa cops were pretty much assisting. Not really a surprise, cops are pretty right-wing aligned in general.
      - throwaway894345 5y ago
        From your own link: > Police have not confirmed any link between their investigation into this incident and the ongoing convoy protest. Anyway, there's a pretty considerable difference between whatever this was and the images of burned down neighborhoods in the US. https://www.google.com/search?q=kenosha+aftermath&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiOmcP9_v_1AhXVJEQIHS_uCZwQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1717&bih=1015&dpr=2 https://www.google.com/search?q=kenosha+aftermath&client=saf...
      - adolph 5y ago
        On the footage, he described seeing two individuals lighting a fire in the lobby shortly after 5 a.m. Sunday. After the suspects leave, another individual is seen coming into view and quickly extinguishing the fire near the elevators, Munoz said. ... Police have not confirmed any link between their investigation into this incident and the ongoing convoy protest.
  - karpierz 5y ago
    Depends on how you define peaceful; if you consider it peaceful to make enough noise in a neighbourhood such that thousands cannot sleep there for weeks, then yes.
  - tablespoon 5y ago
    >> This type of revelation will likely be commonplace in the days/weeks ahead as militant extremists are exposed. > There will always be some opportunistic groups looking to cause more mayhem in chaotic situations like this. These protests have been literally “mostly peaceful” no? Exactly. Didn't "Bugaloo Bois" try to hijack the Black Lives Matter protests? I think it's important to be careful, and not try to paint an entire protest movement with a small unreasonable minority that may be within or adjacent to it.
    - mikeyouse 5y ago
      Several of the most prominent acts of violence during the BLM protests were indeed Boogaloo Boys (murders of multiple police officers in Oakland, arson at a police precinct in Minneapolis, shooting up a different precinct with an AK-47 while shouting "Justice for Floyd!")
      - vorpalhex 5y ago
        Are we in the same reality? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-pleads-guilty-minneapolis-precinct-arson-after-george-floyd-death-n1255424 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-pleads-guilty-minne...
        mikeyouse 5y ago
        Yep.. that was the 4th person arrested.. Here’s one of the others; > According to the complaint, Hunter would later post multiple messages on Facebook bragging of his actions in Minneapolis on the night of 28 May and morning of 29 May, writing, “I set fire to that precinct with the Black community,” and, “My mom would call the FBI if she knew.” “I’ve burned police stations with Black Panthers in Minneapolis,” he claimed in one message, and in another, “The BLM protesters in Minneapolis loved me.” https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/23/texas-boogaloo-boi-minneapolis-police-building-george-floyd https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/...
        vorpalhex 5y ago
- mjfl 5y ago
  There is also potential for it being false flag operations in order to justify more militaristic responses.
- elevenoh 5y ago
  You're eating up the propaganda. These are regular folks.
deleted 5y ago
[deleted]
0xy 5y ago
- talentedcoin 5y ago
  Lmfao, it’s the RCMP saying this, but sure.
newsclues 5y ago
Oka crisis in the 90s had gun battles between FN and the police/military

908B64B197 5y ago

Did they accidently query their own payroll? Trudeau's father had the Mounties plant bombs at civilians (Canadian citizens on Canadian soil) back in the 70's and tried to blame it on some political group to justify armed intervention [0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_controversies_involving_the_Royal_Canadian_Mounted_Police#Break-ins_and_bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_controversies_involvin...

cf100clunk 5y ago

This type of revelation will likely be commonplace in the days/weeks ahead as militant extremists are exposed.

redisman 5y ago
There will always be some opportunistic groups looking to cause more mayhem in chaotic situations like this. These protests have been literally “mostly peaceful” no?
- cf100clunk 5y ago
  I got voted down for saying what you did but in a more terse, direct fashion. Too much heat in here with one-day HNers, yourself excepted.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    one-day HN'ers can't downvote (400 Karma threshold)
- ceejayoz 5y ago
  > These protests have been literally “mostly peaceful” no? That's fair, yes. Economically disruptive, but largely peaceful. I'd wager the left isn't going to pass "it's legal to run over protesters" in response to these, though. https://www.vox.com/2021/4/25/22367019/gop-laws-oklahoma-iowa-florida-floyd-blm-protests-police https://www.vox.com/2021/4/25/22367019/gop-laws-oklahoma-iow...
  - manquer 5y ago
    Sleep deprivation and continuous noise is considered torture under Geneva Convention and by the U.N.[1] and Canadian law[2]. U.S. and others have been condemned heavily for using such techniques and U.S. has since stopped (at least officially) even in black ops places like Gitmo. Protests and blockade are one thing, continuous noise in areas where people live and work is not peaceful . [1] https://tbinternet.ohchr.org/Treaties/CAT/Shared%20Documents/UKR/CAT_C_UKR_CO_6_18892_E.pdf https://tbinternet.ohchr.org/Treaties/CAT/Shared%20Documents... [2] https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/yes-sleep-deprivation-is-torture/ https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/yes-sleep-deprivation-is-tor...
    - throwaway894345 5y ago
      - sudosysgen 5y ago
        If your noisy neighbor was setting of a blowhorn with a high duty cycle for multiple days with the express intent to cause harm to you, it would probably be fair to call that some form of assault.
        throwaway894345 5y ago
        > with the express intent to cause harm Citation?
        sudosysgen 5y ago
- kerneloftruth 5y ago
  Yes. I've seen no evidence of stores being looted, businesses burned, or anybody throwing rocks at police -- all of which were common in 2020 BLM protests.
  - paulmd 5y ago
    Well, now you have. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-police-arson-investigation-fire-apartment-lobby-1.6342347 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-police-arson-in... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/coutts-protest-blockade-arrests-rcmp-monday-1.6351112 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/coutts-protest-blocka... As for the police - helps that a lot of them were tacitly helping the rioters. As usual, giving them fuel and supplies, and ignoring clear-cut violations of the law. Why throw rocks at an ally? Toronto and other cities may have shut them down, but the Ottawa cops were pretty much assisting. Not really a surprise, cops are pretty right-wing aligned in general.
    - throwaway894345 5y ago
      From your own link: > Police have not confirmed any link between their investigation into this incident and the ongoing convoy protest. Anyway, there's a pretty considerable difference between whatever this was and the images of burned down neighborhoods in the US. https://www.google.com/search?q=kenosha+aftermath&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiOmcP9_v_1AhXVJEQIHS_uCZwQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1717&bih=1015&dpr=2 https://www.google.com/search?q=kenosha+aftermath&client=saf...
    - adolph 5y ago
      On the footage, he described seeing two individuals lighting a fire in the lobby shortly after 5 a.m. Sunday. After the suspects leave, another individual is seen coming into view and quickly extinguishing the fire near the elevators, Munoz said. ... Police have not confirmed any link between their investigation into this incident and the ongoing convoy protest.
- karpierz 5y ago
  Depends on how you define peaceful; if you consider it peaceful to make enough noise in a neighbourhood such that thousands cannot sleep there for weeks, then yes.
- tablespoon 5y ago
  >> This type of revelation will likely be commonplace in the days/weeks ahead as militant extremists are exposed. > There will always be some opportunistic groups looking to cause more mayhem in chaotic situations like this. These protests have been literally “mostly peaceful” no? Exactly. Didn't "Bugaloo Bois" try to hijack the Black Lives Matter protests? I think it's important to be careful, and not try to paint an entire protest movement with a small unreasonable minority that may be within or adjacent to it.
  - mikeyouse 5y ago
    Several of the most prominent acts of violence during the BLM protests were indeed Boogaloo Boys (murders of multiple police officers in Oakland, arson at a police precinct in Minneapolis, shooting up a different precinct with an AK-47 while shouting "Justice for Floyd!")
    - vorpalhex 5y ago
      Are we in the same reality? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-pleads-guilty-minneapolis-precinct-arson-after-george-floyd-death-n1255424 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-pleads-guilty-minne...
      - mikeyouse 5y ago
        Yep.. that was the 4th person arrested.. Here’s one of the others; > According to the complaint, Hunter would later post multiple messages on Facebook bragging of his actions in Minneapolis on the night of 28 May and morning of 29 May, writing, “I set fire to that precinct with the Black community,” and, “My mom would call the FBI if she knew.” “I’ve burned police stations with Black Panthers in Minneapolis,” he claimed in one message, and in another, “The BLM protesters in Minneapolis loved me.” https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/23/texas-boogaloo-boi-minneapolis-police-building-george-floyd https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/...
        vorpalhex 5y ago
mjfl 5y ago
There is also potential for it being false flag operations in order to justify more militaristic responses.
elevenoh 5y ago
You're eating up the propaganda. These are regular folks.

deleted 5y ago

[deleted]

0xy 5y ago

talentedcoin 5y ago
Lmfao, it’s the RCMP saying this, but sure.

newsclues 5y ago

Oka crisis in the 90s had gun battles between FN and the police/military