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Vouched because of the good conversations going on downthread. Parent is pretty crude. I can live with crudeneess and bring the quality of the conversation up.

Vouched because of the good conversations going on downthread. Parent is pretty crude. I can live with crudeneess and bring the quality of the conversation up. Anyways, I've wholeheartedly recommended lying in certain situations on employment. (Don't lie about certified/licensed/bonded jobs, dont like to the state/feds, dont lie about stuff you cant do.) A while back (2009), I was in a very bad run. Got laid off. Didn't have a job for 1.5y . And it's hard to get back in work without already having a job... You get the side-eyes of "why werent you working this time???" crap. So, I started lying on my resumes. I found a company that went bankrupt 2 towns over, and put them as employed in a role I'm easily capable of. Am I lying? Absolutely. Can I do the role? Absolutely. I got the job, unsurprisingly enough. And I was there for 1y, enough to get a better work history to get out of the rut I was in. And I hopped from there to a better position, all the while slowly cleaning up the fakeness from my resume all the while generating a valid work history. It sucks, sure, that there's no good way to break in the work-world if you've been ejected. (Que entry-level jobs that require 5y experience...) Frankly, vs starvation, homelessness, destitution - you damn straight I'll lie. And if I have to, I will definitely do it again. Capitalism is stone-cold and heartless. And if that's what I have to be to survive in the work-world to make money, so be it.

notch656a 5y ago
Yeah when I wound up homeless, I started applying for lots of wage labor. I quickly found out they had no interest in hiring a college educated white-collar worker. I may or may not have discovered* that if I were to have changed my resume to all shit / labor jobs (while keeping everything else the same so I could remember the companies well), they would employ me. I would have been able to dig myself out of my rut and get stable employment in a factory until I could get back into tech. After working in factory few months, I was able to get apartment. With apartment, I was able to get myself nice looking and clean and tech job. My process from day labor/ homeless (save up enough for airbnb/hotel) -> wage job (save up for apartment) -> professional job at this point is pretty much a well oiled machine. Sadly the first two steps basically require dishonesty. I've only been through this a couple times in my life and hope not to again. *This is all fiction, of course.

notch656a 5y ago

Yeah when I wound up homeless, I started applying for lots of wage labor. I quickly found out they had no interest in hiring a college educated white-collar worker. I may or may not have discovered* that if I were to have changed my resume to all shit / labor jobs (while keeping everything else the same so I could remember the companies well), they would employ me. I would have been able to dig myself out of my rut and get stable employment in a factory until I could get back into tech. After working in factory few months, I was able to get apartment. With apartment, I was able to get myself nice looking and clean and tech job. My process from day labor/ homeless (save up enough for airbnb/hotel) -> wage job (save up for apartment) -> professional job at this point is pretty much a well oiled machine. Sadly the first two steps basically require dishonesty. I've only been through this a couple times in my life and hope not to again. *This is all fiction, of course.