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Firefox is losing marketshare because Chrome is the default browser on Android devices and Android devices are the number one device in the world. Most people d

Firefox is losing marketshare because Chrome is the default browser on Android devices and Android devices are the number one device in the world. Most people don't even know how to change their default browser. I don't think Firefox needs saving. Those who use it are active and committed to it.

selfhoster11 5y ago
> I don't think Firefox needs saving. Those who use it are active and committed to it. Don't be so sure. I stuck to Android though thick and thin since 2.1 or 2.2, but my next phone will be an iPhone, because I bloody had enough of their nonsense. Firefox is harder to replace, if only because it's the only counter to Google's browser monopoly (so I consider it a moral imperative to keep using it), but if they keep reducing openness and end user control, I will eventually snap and abandon them. And if I'm nearing this point, then many have already passed it because I have a remarkable tolerance for shitty FOSS software. A family member already requested I throw out Firefox and install Chrome, and I complied because honestly, I can't fault them.
- Klonoar 5y ago
  Look, I hate to say it, but Firefox is not the counter to a Chrome monopoly. Firefox lost this fight quite some time ago, and the only thing truly stopping Chrome from owning the web is Apple and Safari. Yes, it's true that it's fairly anti-competitive behavior to only allow WebKit on iOS, but the painful truth here is that it stops Chrome from being spread around enough devices and taking over. Google cannot push Apple around anywhere near as easily. Firefox is a literal drop in the bucket compared to that effort.
vi2837 5y ago
Yeap, the same story like Windows and Explorer.
fuzzy2 5y ago
> Those who use it are active and committed to it. Are they though? Are they so very committed they'll take all the crap Mozilla throws at them? Because Mozilla sure is trying their very best to get rid of Firefox users.
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selfhoster11 5y ago

> I don't think Firefox needs saving. Those who use it are active and committed to it. Don't be so sure. I stuck to Android though thick and thin since 2.1 or 2.2, but my next phone will be an iPhone, because I bloody had enough of their nonsense. Firefox is harder to replace, if only because it's the only counter to Google's browser monopoly (so I consider it a moral imperative to keep using it), but if they keep reducing openness and end user control, I will eventually snap and abandon them. And if I'm nearing this point, then many have already passed it because I have a remarkable tolerance for shitty FOSS software. A family member already requested I throw out Firefox and install Chrome, and I complied because honestly, I can't fault them.

Klonoar 5y ago
Look, I hate to say it, but Firefox is not the counter to a Chrome monopoly. Firefox lost this fight quite some time ago, and the only thing truly stopping Chrome from owning the web is Apple and Safari. Yes, it's true that it's fairly anti-competitive behavior to only allow WebKit on iOS, but the painful truth here is that it stops Chrome from being spread around enough devices and taking over. Google cannot push Apple around anywhere near as easily. Firefox is a literal drop in the bucket compared to that effort.

vi2837 5y ago

Yeap, the same story like Windows and Explorer.

fuzzy2 5y ago

> Those who use it are active and committed to it. Are they though? Are they so very committed they'll take all the crap Mozilla throws at them? Because Mozilla sure is trying their very best to get rid of Firefox users.

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