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Let me play the devils advocate here: Why does it matter that what she did was a "simple" hack that didn't require exploiting fifteen CVEs at once? It's akin

Let me play the devils advocate here: Why does it matter that what she did was a "simple" hack that didn't require exploiting fifteen CVEs at once? It's akin to pulling away the seat of a teacher who wants to sit down. Everybody is technically capable of pulling the seat away, it does not require any special skills. You still get in trouble if you do it.

judge2020 5y ago
> In the investigation of the criminal act, the police examined user logs of the bulletin board and found others also suspected of linking it. In response, they raided the house of an unemployed man and that of a 47-year-old construction worker. None of the three individuals appear to be accused of actually having written the infinite loop. Explaining her actions, the girl said that she'd run into such pranks herself and thought it would be funny if someone clicked the link. [0] No fun allowed I guess. 0: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/japanese-police-charge-13-year-old-girl-for-infinite-javascript-popup-prank/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/japanese-police-...
maerF0x0 5y ago
> It's akin to pulling away the seat of a teacher who wants to sit down. You dont usually go to jail for something that is immediately recoverable. (albeit embarrassing) . Detention might be in order though. Maybe we need a computer hacker equivalent of the drunk tank https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunk_tank https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunk_tank As a completely aside rant, we should levee a fee to alcohol companies to fund these drunk tanks, it makes no sense for that to be taxpayer/police budget funded.
- dylan604 5y ago
  Or why not just have the occupant of said drunk tank fund it by paying a fine? Oh wait, they do that already by having arrested you and now commiting a portion of your future life dealing with the courts and the fines they levy.
  - maerF0x0 5y ago
    i see, i guess it's locale dependent then. Where I'm from the drunk tank is mostly a catch and release program where people spend the night so they're not a danger to others, but really aren't worth prosecuting. What you said might work where you are though.
    - dylan604 5y ago
      Yeah, if the police detain you to a drunk tank, you've been arrested. If they just think you're being a nuisance for being intoxicated, they issue a 'public intox' ticket. Either way, courts and fines are in your future. Interactions with police rarely ends with out some sort of dip into your wallet. Fun fact, if you are arrested while in possession of any kind of narcotics, most departments will place you in the drunk tank as well until you are arraigned.
rahimiali 5y ago
I don't think you get arrested for pulling a chair?
- dylan604 5y ago
  Or beating someone with it if you're watching WWE
josephcsible 5y ago
> It's akin to pulling away the seat of a teacher who wants to sit down. You're right, it is. You don't get arrested for pulling away the seat of a teacher who wants to sit down. You might get detention, but if that's the only bad thing you've ever done, you'll probably get let off with a warning.
- dylan604 5y ago
  Not in today's zero tolerance world. This would probably be construed as assault on the teacher. citizenWithCriminalRecord++
vimacs2 5y ago
The devil doesn't require an advocate.
- borski 5y ago
  Everyone has the right to an attorney. ;)

judge2020 5y ago

> In the investigation of the criminal act, the police examined user logs of the bulletin board and found others also suspected of linking it. In response, they raided the house of an unemployed man and that of a 47-year-old construction worker. None of the three individuals appear to be accused of actually having written the infinite loop. Explaining her actions, the girl said that she'd run into such pranks herself and thought it would be funny if someone clicked the link. [0] No fun allowed I guess. 0: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/japanese-police-charge-13-year-old-girl-for-infinite-javascript-popup-prank/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/japanese-police-...

maerF0x0 5y ago

> It's akin to pulling away the seat of a teacher who wants to sit down. You dont usually go to jail for something that is immediately recoverable. (albeit embarrassing) . Detention might be in order though. Maybe we need a computer hacker equivalent of the drunk tank https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunk_tank https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunk_tank As a completely aside rant, we should levee a fee to alcohol companies to fund these drunk tanks, it makes no sense for that to be taxpayer/police budget funded.

dylan604 5y ago
Or why not just have the occupant of said drunk tank fund it by paying a fine? Oh wait, they do that already by having arrested you and now commiting a portion of your future life dealing with the courts and the fines they levy.
- maerF0x0 5y ago
  i see, i guess it's locale dependent then. Where I'm from the drunk tank is mostly a catch and release program where people spend the night so they're not a danger to others, but really aren't worth prosecuting. What you said might work where you are though.
  - dylan604 5y ago
    Yeah, if the police detain you to a drunk tank, you've been arrested. If they just think you're being a nuisance for being intoxicated, they issue a 'public intox' ticket. Either way, courts and fines are in your future. Interactions with police rarely ends with out some sort of dip into your wallet. Fun fact, if you are arrested while in possession of any kind of narcotics, most departments will place you in the drunk tank as well until you are arraigned.

rahimiali 5y ago

I don't think you get arrested for pulling a chair?

dylan604 5y ago
Or beating someone with it if you're watching WWE

josephcsible 5y ago

> It's akin to pulling away the seat of a teacher who wants to sit down. You're right, it is. You don't get arrested for pulling away the seat of a teacher who wants to sit down. You might get detention, but if that's the only bad thing you've ever done, you'll probably get let off with a warning.

dylan604 5y ago
Not in today's zero tolerance world. This would probably be construed as assault on the teacher. citizenWithCriminalRecord++

vimacs2 5y ago

The devil doesn't require an advocate.

borski 5y ago
Everyone has the right to an attorney. ;)