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If we’re going to compare bitcoin to dry clothes, I’d rather have dry clothes but ten orders of magnitude

anonporridge 5y ago
Do you care so little about the planet that you can't just hang your clothes and wait a little while longer for them to dry?
- webkike 5y ago
  Sometimes it’s raining
  - anonporridge 5y ago
    Cool! So you hang your clothes otherwise, right? Or are you just a hypocrite that will readily use an unnecessarily energy wasteful product for some light convenience while berating something that uses energy that other people, but not you, consider to be valuable. Or do you want to have an actual adult conversation about how we can actually solve GHG emissions by properly internalizing the costs of polluting via these dirty sources, rather than wasting political and social capital on a thing that uses <1% of the worlds energy, and if it disappeared tomorrow would have almost zero effect on our planet's climate trajectory?
    - webkike 5y ago
      You can try to frame it like it is all you want, but drying clothes is not using “unnecessarily energy wasteful product for some light convenience”. This isn’t just one person using a dryer to dry their socks, this is the total cost of drying clothes, and that isn’t something that doesn’t massively improves everyone’s life. If you’re going to spend that amount of energy the base requirement of usefulness of the outcome in my opinion very well could be that all of our clothes are dried.
- cute_boi 5y ago
  This assumes, clothes can dry easily during winters or rainy season. Also, in modern city we are starting to live densely. Some people live in 1 or 2 rooms and they don't have accessibility to dry their clothes. And drying clothes in room has its own problem like latent heat issue.
  - PretzelPirate 5y ago
    As a counter argument: I live in a small NYC apartment with a washing machine but no dryer. I wash my clothes and then hang them in the bathroom to dry. It’s inconvenient but it works year-round and my clothes get dry.

Do you care so little about the planet that you can't just hang your clothes and wait a little while longer for them to dry?

webkike 5y ago
Sometimes it’s raining
- anonporridge 5y ago
  Cool! So you hang your clothes otherwise, right? Or are you just a hypocrite that will readily use an unnecessarily energy wasteful product for some light convenience while berating something that uses energy that other people, but not you, consider to be valuable. Or do you want to have an actual adult conversation about how we can actually solve GHG emissions by properly internalizing the costs of polluting via these dirty sources, rather than wasting political and social capital on a thing that uses <1% of the worlds energy, and if it disappeared tomorrow would have almost zero effect on our planet's climate trajectory?
  - webkike 5y ago
    You can try to frame it like it is all you want, but drying clothes is not using “unnecessarily energy wasteful product for some light convenience”. This isn’t just one person using a dryer to dry their socks, this is the total cost of drying clothes, and that isn’t something that doesn’t massively improves everyone’s life. If you’re going to spend that amount of energy the base requirement of usefulness of the outcome in my opinion very well could be that all of our clothes are dried.
cute_boi 5y ago
This assumes, clothes can dry easily during winters or rainy season. Also, in modern city we are starting to live densely. Some people live in 1 or 2 rooms and they don't have accessibility to dry their clothes. And drying clothes in room has its own problem like latent heat issue.
- PretzelPirate 5y ago
  As a counter argument: I live in a small NYC apartment with a washing machine but no dryer. I wash my clothes and then hang them in the bathroom to dry. It’s inconvenient but it works year-round and my clothes get dry.