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Why jump to state-sponsored? This would be the exact right time for anyone ideologicaly opposed to the protest's motivations to hack donor data.

hammock 5y ago
Are there non-authoritarians that want jab mandates so badly that they will hack websites to doxx innocent protestors? Could be, I haven't met any (thankfully)
- lazide 5y ago
  Plenty of people may not want jab mandates, may not be authoritarians, but are in earshot/irritation reach of the protests. And considering how badly the information was secured, pretty much anyone who knows anything about an S3 bucket seems like they could have done it. Not even really hacking.
- ineedasername 5y ago
  Supporting vax mandates doesn't make someone part of the "state". Plenty of people that are not part of the government support mandates. You're also assuming that support for mandates would be the only motive: While less likely than mandate support, someone may simply have been very angry that their life had been turned to chaos & misery by the protestors.
  - hammock 5y ago
    >You're also assuming that support for mandates would be the only motive: Not my assumption. The premise of the comment I replied to was that they were ideologically opposed
mywittyname 5y ago
Also, "the state" seems to tacitly support the protests. Others have rightly pointed out, that had this been a left-wing protest, "the state" response would have been brutal and decisive. So it's kind of hard to see why they'd do it this way rather than taking a much more direct approach. I have no doubts that the true culprits for this hack will be found and the punishment will be orders of magnitude worse than anything the truckers will receive.
- alisonkisk 5y ago
- JacobThreeThree 5y ago
  >had this been a left-wing protest, "the state" response would have been brutal and decisive Recent history does not support this view. When left-wing railway blockades shut down the entire CN rail network, there was no "brutal and decisive" response. It took the better part of a year to resolve, and the OPP didn't enforce the court ordered injunction CN got, and the Liberal government was meeting frequently with the protestors. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/marc-miller-path-forward-protests-1.5468176 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/marc-miller-path-forward-pr...
  - Apocryphon 5y ago
    Even though many Anglo left-wing groups are sympathetic to, and act in solidarity with the First Nations, is it accurate to label indigenous protesters as left-wing protesters? How united was the left when the Mohawks stood in the way of Quebecois nationalism? Perhaps it is imprecise to conflate incipient nationalist groups within Canada with "left-wing."

hammock 5y ago

Are there non-authoritarians that want jab mandates so badly that they will hack websites to doxx innocent protestors? Could be, I haven't met any (thankfully)

lazide 5y ago
Plenty of people may not want jab mandates, may not be authoritarians, but are in earshot/irritation reach of the protests. And considering how badly the information was secured, pretty much anyone who knows anything about an S3 bucket seems like they could have done it. Not even really hacking.
ineedasername 5y ago
Supporting vax mandates doesn't make someone part of the "state". Plenty of people that are not part of the government support mandates. You're also assuming that support for mandates would be the only motive: While less likely than mandate support, someone may simply have been very angry that their life had been turned to chaos & misery by the protestors.
- hammock 5y ago
  >You're also assuming that support for mandates would be the only motive: Not my assumption. The premise of the comment I replied to was that they were ideologically opposed

mywittyname 5y ago

Also, "the state" seems to tacitly support the protests. Others have rightly pointed out, that had this been a left-wing protest, "the state" response would have been brutal and decisive. So it's kind of hard to see why they'd do it this way rather than taking a much more direct approach. I have no doubts that the true culprits for this hack will be found and the punishment will be orders of magnitude worse than anything the truckers will receive.

alisonkisk 5y ago
JacobThreeThree 5y ago
>had this been a left-wing protest, "the state" response would have been brutal and decisive Recent history does not support this view. When left-wing railway blockades shut down the entire CN rail network, there was no "brutal and decisive" response. It took the better part of a year to resolve, and the OPP didn't enforce the court ordered injunction CN got, and the Liberal government was meeting frequently with the protestors. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/marc-miller-path-forward-protests-1.5468176 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/marc-miller-path-forward-pr...
- Apocryphon 5y ago
  Even though many Anglo left-wing groups are sympathetic to, and act in solidarity with the First Nations, is it accurate to label indigenous protesters as left-wing protesters? How united was the left when the Mohawks stood in the way of Quebecois nationalism? Perhaps it is imprecise to conflate incipient nationalist groups within Canada with "left-wing."