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Notorious? And the best source for this is a 52-year-old article from a student newspaper in the US, with no listed author or sourcing? The linked article also
by Bud 5y ago
Notorious? And the best source for this is a 52-year-old article from a student newspaper in the US, with no listed author or sourcing?
The linked article also reveals that the separatists in question were kidnapping multiple people at the time. This seems like ample reason to arrest a bunch of them.
- olivermarks 5y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Trudeau#October_Crisis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Trudeau#October_Crisis Easy to find more details of this historical event elsewhere.
- jeromegv 5y agoI mean if you are Canadian or Québécois, there is no denying that Trudeau father is famous for having invoqued martial law in Quebec. This is something everyone from Quebec knows and the merit of this measure has been debated and discussed for decades in various movies, books, news articles. I don't know why you are debating the source, this seems irrelevant.
- Bud 5y agoI'm not Canadian and the reason I asked for a better source is not at all irrelevant. Those who are not Canadian might want a higher-quality source to learn about the topic in question. It is, obviously completely irrelevant whether "everyone in Quebec knows" this. Most users here, to put it rather mildly, are not from Quebec.
- bawolff 5y agoYou could just look it up on wikipedia. The october crisis is one of the most important events in modern canadian political history.
- radford-neal 5y agoThe word "notorious" is appropriate for those who think Pierre Trudeau's invocation of the War Measures Act was wrong. And that is a widespread (but far from universal) opinion among Canadians. Note that one reason for invoking the War Measures Act was that it allowed for the arrest of people for whom there was no good evidence of criminal conduct.
- beerandt 5y agoThere's no need for ideological alignment to be notorious. Something being controversial is more than enough.
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- peripote 5y agoThe question isn't about arresting them. Nobody disagrees that the FLQ activists who committed violence should have been arrested. They even murdered a provincial cabinet minister. What is disputed is whether putting the entire country under martial law, canceling all civil liberties and sending the army into the streets, as Trudeau did, was an appropriate response. It's impossible to discuss this objectively at the moment, because everyone will simply line up with whatever position supports their side in the current contro, but I think it's safe to say that up until this moment the majority view (certainly among the educated class) has been that this was an authoritarian excess and a bad precedent, and that the criminal justice system would have sufficed to deal with the threat. It is one of the most famous episodes in Canadian history, and remains debated, so the word notorious is accurate.
- bawolff 5y ago> sending the army into the streets, as Trudeau did, was an appropriate response. the army part was the premier of quebec not trudeau. Policing is a provincial responsibility. Having the armty come in was a provincial call that was unrelated to the war measures act.
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- gxt 5y agoI am a Quebecker and yes he is notorious for that. Here's a 51 year old video from CBC, Canada's state media. https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1241195075951 https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1241195075951 "The state must use every means at its disposal" ... "Just watch me"