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Medium-related comment (sorry), but I wanted to point out a great video of Cantelope Island played by Herbie Hancock. This really is a good example of jazz fusi

by phzbOx 15y ago

Medium-related comment (sorry), but I wanted to point out a great video of Cantelope Island played by Herbie Hancock. This really is a good example of jazz fusion (With the C -> Ab transition) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrgP1u5YWEg&feature=related If I had the chance to see Hancock, I'd surely want to see some jazz like that.. So I somewhat can understand the 'purist' in the example. I wouldn't however whine about it as I'm sure it'd be some epic music.

danieldk 15y ago
I have seen Hancock recently, at a tribute to Miles Davis with Wayne Shorter, and Marcus Miller. And witnessed a different emotion, equally bad to innovation: people without a grain of critical thinking. In other words, they had to like the music, not because it was great, but because it was Hancock, Shorter, and Miller. Frankly, the concert sucked. There was no intimacy, it sounded cold, and the instruments were completely drained by arena-style drums. At the same festival, in tiny rooms, fantastic innovative music was made. But most people rave only about the things they can namedrop to friends.
- azulum 15y ago
  it amazes me how much of what is subjectively good is based on reputation alone. like derek jeter winning gold gloves. but there is a flip side, while you found it cold and lacking intimacy, the people who rave based on reputation alone actually got something out of it—even if just the equivalent to a cheap trinket—they saw someone famous play with other famous people, and thus may have enjoyed it based on reputation alone. it takes all sorts to make a world.
- blankenship 15y ago
  Totally agreed. I can't say I particularly enjoyed the set either—but it wasn't because it wasn't what I expected, it was because it wasn't as good as I expected it to be.
mootothemax 15y ago
This really is a good example of jazz fusion But where's the fusion? There's a guitar, but jazz guitar. A nice bit of synth work... but there's nothing experimental, or involving influences from other genres. Not much influence of other styles, even. My personal opinion is that this is an example of very talented musicians performing with great proficiency, albeit whilst sticking to pretty safe ground. I think the term "fusion" is great example of where an amount of purism is required; certainly in popular usage, right now the term is essentially meaningless.

by phzbOx 15y ago

danieldk 15y ago

I have seen Hancock recently, at a tribute to Miles Davis with Wayne Shorter, and Marcus Miller. And witnessed a different emotion, equally bad to innovation: people without a grain of critical thinking. In other words, they had to like the music, not because it was great, but because it was Hancock, Shorter, and Miller. Frankly, the concert sucked. There was no intimacy, it sounded cold, and the instruments were completely drained by arena-style drums. At the same festival, in tiny rooms, fantastic innovative music was made. But most people rave only about the things they can namedrop to friends.

azulum 15y ago
it amazes me how much of what is subjectively good is based on reputation alone. like derek jeter winning gold gloves. but there is a flip side, while you found it cold and lacking intimacy, the people who rave based on reputation alone actually got something out of it—even if just the equivalent to a cheap trinket—they saw someone famous play with other famous people, and thus may have enjoyed it based on reputation alone. it takes all sorts to make a world.
blankenship 15y ago
Totally agreed. I can't say I particularly enjoyed the set either—but it wasn't because it wasn't what I expected, it was because it wasn't as good as I expected it to be.

mootothemax 15y ago

This really is a good example of jazz fusion But where's the fusion? There's a guitar, but jazz guitar. A nice bit of synth work... but there's nothing experimental, or involving influences from other genres. Not much influence of other styles, even. My personal opinion is that this is an example of very talented musicians performing with great proficiency, albeit whilst sticking to pretty safe ground. I think the term "fusion" is great example of where an amount of purism is required; certainly in popular usage, right now the term is essentially meaningless.