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You’ve been able to cross a road anywhere since the dawn of time in pretty much the entire of Europe (U.K. included). The changes in Highway Code really just s

You’ve been able to cross a road anywhere since the dawn of time in pretty much the entire of Europe (U.K. included). The changes in Highway Code really just say that cars should give way to pedestrians that are crossing minor roads, while walking down a major road. I.e. the general rule is that all traffic going down a major should wait and give way to continuing traffic, regardless of if it’s a car, bike or pedestrian, when they enter or leave the major road to/from a minor road. There’s is still an expectation that all road uses take care and respect other road users. You don’t ever have a “right of way” only the obligation to “give way”.

iso1631 5y ago
> The changes in Highway Code really just say that cars should give way to pedestrians that are crossing minor roads, while walking down a major road. That was always the case, see Rule 182 from the 2006 version for example https://web.archive.org/web/20060418012127/http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/20.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20060418012127/http://www.highwa... "turning at road junctions; give way to pedestrians who are already crossing the road into which you are turning" The change was you now had to give way to those about to cross the road too
- avianlyric 5y ago
  Yes I know. But the change makes it clear you shouldn’t impede continuing traffic (including pedestrians walking down the pavement), and you should consider the pavement part of the highway (which it is), rather than a separate part of the road which automotive traffic is allowed to cut through with impunity. Obviously cars should always give way to pedestrians in the roadway, the alternative is running them down. I don’t think we need a Highway Code rule to make it clear why that’s a bad idea.
  - iso1631 5y ago
    Cars of course have used the pavement as part of the highway for years, constantly driving and blocking it, mowing down about 40 pedestrians a week on the "safety" of the pavement, just for the convenience of the driver. The police nor council do anything about it. > I don’t think we need a Highway Code rule to make it clear why that’s a bad idea. While the UK is far better than the wild west of the US (pedestrians killed per million people per year. UK=5, New Jersey=22, New Mexico=47), there's still about 1 pedestrian a day killed by drivers, and 10 per day seriously injured. 20 children are killed or seriously injured every week for the "crime" of walking, almost all in towns where there is no need to be traveling more than 15mph (2 miles to get out of town or onto a major artery road, at 30mph that takes 4 minutes with no traffic lights, at 15mph that's 8 minutes)
    - avianlyric 5y ago
      I literally have know idea what point you’re trying to make.

iso1631 5y ago

> The changes in Highway Code really just say that cars should give way to pedestrians that are crossing minor roads, while walking down a major road. That was always the case, see Rule 182 from the 2006 version for example https://web.archive.org/web/20060418012127/http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/20.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20060418012127/http://www.highwa... "turning at road junctions; give way to pedestrians who are already crossing the road into which you are turning" The change was you now had to give way to those about to cross the road too

avianlyric 5y ago
Yes I know. But the change makes it clear you shouldn’t impede continuing traffic (including pedestrians walking down the pavement), and you should consider the pavement part of the highway (which it is), rather than a separate part of the road which automotive traffic is allowed to cut through with impunity. Obviously cars should always give way to pedestrians in the roadway, the alternative is running them down. I don’t think we need a Highway Code rule to make it clear why that’s a bad idea.
- iso1631 5y ago
  Cars of course have used the pavement as part of the highway for years, constantly driving and blocking it, mowing down about 40 pedestrians a week on the "safety" of the pavement, just for the convenience of the driver. The police nor council do anything about it. > I don’t think we need a Highway Code rule to make it clear why that’s a bad idea. While the UK is far better than the wild west of the US (pedestrians killed per million people per year. UK=5, New Jersey=22, New Mexico=47), there's still about 1 pedestrian a day killed by drivers, and 10 per day seriously injured. 20 children are killed or seriously injured every week for the "crime" of walking, almost all in towns where there is no need to be traveling more than 15mph (2 miles to get out of town or onto a major artery road, at 30mph that takes 4 minutes with no traffic lights, at 15mph that's 8 minutes)
  - avianlyric 5y ago
    I literally have know idea what point you’re trying to make.