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I actively resist putting sidewalks in my neighborhood, and actively bought into this neighborhood because it lacks them Why? Because do not want to incur the

by syshum 5y ago

I actively resist putting sidewalks in my neighborhood, and actively bought into this neighborhood because it lacks them Why? Because do not want to incur the costs of maintaining them, nor the liability that comes with them from either a city stand point, or injury standpoint If sidewalks where maintained by the city, including snow removal, and repairs, then maybe. but the fact is in most location they are an imposition on the property owner that comes with large costs and liabilities.

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ericmay 5y ago
Rules for these things vary by state. Personally I view your take on cleaning sidewalks off of snow (again which vary by state) as really concerning and antisocial. The other issue here is that you still pay for the roads, maintenance, police patrols, rest stops, expansion, environmental degradation, snow removal, insurance for cars, gas infrastructure, and all of those things related to roads but since you don’t get a specific bill in the mail with the line item for roads that you don’t think you’re paying for them or a huge cost for them. How much does it cost to have car accidents as the leading cause of death of teenagers? Who knows. But it’s gotta be more expensive than shoveling your sidewalk off.
- syshum 5y ago
  >>and antisocial. OK And? I fully admit I am anti-social. >>The other issue here is that you still pay for the roads, maintenance, police patrols, rest stops, expansion, environmental degradation, snow removal, insurance for cars, gas infrastructure, and all of those things related to roads but since you don’t get a specific bill in the mail with the line item for roads that you don’t think you’re paying for them or a huge cost for them. The cost is not the problem for me, and I would prefer to get a bill for every single one of those items. Honestly if city employed people to remove the snow from the sidewalks and sent me a bill like they do trash collection I would have less of a problem with them. That is not what they do though... >How much does it cost to have car accidents as the leading cause of death of teenagers? Solve that problem by getting teens off the road.
  - ericmay 5y ago
    > Honestly if city employed people to remove the snow from the sidewalks and sent me a bill like they do trash collection I would have less of a problem with them. That is not what they do though... I'm not kidding - the other day some kids walked by and asked if they could shovel my sidewalk and driveway before I got the chance to do it myself and I just paid them to do it. How cool is that? Why do you need the city to solve your problem here? If money isn't the issue... I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. > Solve that problem by getting teens off the road. How can you do that when they have to drive everywhere? Do you not see how circular this is? Once they grow up they become adults, and then they die on the road too as yet another leading cause of death.
    - syshum 5y ago
      Because not everyone has neighborhoods of kids offering to shovel snow, I even tried to contract it out however most of the companies around here want commercial contracts not residential snow removal, and the ones that do offer "best effort" time tables where their commercial customers come first. The last home I had with sidewalks the city would fine you if they were not cleared in 24 hours, contractors would come 3-5 days later >How can you do that when they have to drive everywhere? never said it would not create other problems, I solve the teens dying problem the same way everyone solved the COVID problem, just lock down. it "worked" then right ;)
      - ericmay 5y ago
        Ah crap didn't realize I was dealing with a COVID denier. Nothing more to say here.
        syshum 5y ago
        it is amazing the leaps some people take. If you did not have full throated support for every terrible policy every government enacted in their panic around covid, I must be a "COVID Denier" I bet since I oppose Vaccine Mandates I am also an "anti-vaxxer" as well right? even though I am vaccinated from every illness for which there is a vaccine I am eligible to get including COVID. If you do not support authoritarian government you must be anti-science, this is an amazing timeline..

by syshum 5y ago

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ericmay 5y ago

Rules for these things vary by state. Personally I view your take on cleaning sidewalks off of snow (again which vary by state) as really concerning and antisocial. The other issue here is that you still pay for the roads, maintenance, police patrols, rest stops, expansion, environmental degradation, snow removal, insurance for cars, gas infrastructure, and all of those things related to roads but since you don’t get a specific bill in the mail with the line item for roads that you don’t think you’re paying for them or a huge cost for them. How much does it cost to have car accidents as the leading cause of death of teenagers? Who knows. But it’s gotta be more expensive than shoveling your sidewalk off.

syshum 5y ago
>>and antisocial. OK And? I fully admit I am anti-social. >>The other issue here is that you still pay for the roads, maintenance, police patrols, rest stops, expansion, environmental degradation, snow removal, insurance for cars, gas infrastructure, and all of those things related to roads but since you don’t get a specific bill in the mail with the line item for roads that you don’t think you’re paying for them or a huge cost for them. The cost is not the problem for me, and I would prefer to get a bill for every single one of those items. Honestly if city employed people to remove the snow from the sidewalks and sent me a bill like they do trash collection I would have less of a problem with them. That is not what they do though... >How much does it cost to have car accidents as the leading cause of death of teenagers? Solve that problem by getting teens off the road.
- ericmay 5y ago
  > Honestly if city employed people to remove the snow from the sidewalks and sent me a bill like they do trash collection I would have less of a problem with them. That is not what they do though... I'm not kidding - the other day some kids walked by and asked if they could shovel my sidewalk and driveway before I got the chance to do it myself and I just paid them to do it. How cool is that? Why do you need the city to solve your problem here? If money isn't the issue... I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. > Solve that problem by getting teens off the road. How can you do that when they have to drive everywhere? Do you not see how circular this is? Once they grow up they become adults, and then they die on the road too as yet another leading cause of death.
  - syshum 5y ago
    Because not everyone has neighborhoods of kids offering to shovel snow, I even tried to contract it out however most of the companies around here want commercial contracts not residential snow removal, and the ones that do offer "best effort" time tables where their commercial customers come first. The last home I had with sidewalks the city would fine you if they were not cleared in 24 hours, contractors would come 3-5 days later >How can you do that when they have to drive everywhere? never said it would not create other problems, I solve the teens dying problem the same way everyone solved the COVID problem, just lock down. it "worked" then right ;)
    - ericmay 5y ago
      Ah crap didn't realize I was dealing with a COVID denier. Nothing more to say here.
      - syshum 5y ago
        it is amazing the leaps some people take. If you did not have full throated support for every terrible policy every government enacted in their panic around covid, I must be a "COVID Denier" I bet since I oppose Vaccine Mandates I am also an "anti-vaxxer" as well right? even though I am vaccinated from every illness for which there is a vaccine I am eligible to get including COVID. If you do not support authoritarian government you must be anti-science, this is an amazing timeline..