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In my experience, if you are in the road then, in the mind of the driver, you should not be there and there are various ways in which they will demonstrate this

by dazc 5y ago

In my experience, if you are in the road then, in the mind of the driver, you should not be there and there are various ways in which they will demonstrate this to you. Ranging from an angry face, at one end of the spectrum, to purposely accelerating towards you, at the other. So, yes, I think you're right, casualties are more likely to increase since few drivers are going to be changing their behaviour any time soon.

shkkmo 5y ago
I've been yelled multiple times this last year for crossing the road...at a stop light when I had a "walk" light. I always treat cars as if they are trying to kill me, but the levels of callous disregard for the safety and wellbeing of other road users seems like it has reached new highs. I think we need to get much more proactive about revoking licenses. I am also heavily considering getting a dashcam to start recording and reporting violators.
- guitarbill 5y ago
  The police won't do anything, unless you get hit. But having a "dashcam" while walking is something I'd recommend. Some cyclists already do it. With that, at least in the worse cases, you'd have great evidence it was the driver's fault. Not having that uncertainty in an otherwise their-word-against-your-word situation should also make it easier to press charges or get insurance to pay.
- P_I_Staker 5y ago
  As much as I understand that sentiment. I don't think license restrictions are a very good idea, except in really egregious cases. It would be nice to see in really extreme cases where pedestrians / bikers are disregarded in a really callous manor, but unfortunately I'm not sure the police see many clearcut cases of this. Taking away licenses is not a clean and easy thing in the US, because you basically make someone the ward of someone else, or an outlaw. People can't get by without vehicles, and much of the time they just have to risk it. Best case scenario someone else has to babysit them. I definitely agree we need to make it easier for people to get by without their cars. I just can't stomach making people second class citizens, which is what these laws do. I'm only in favor of them in really egregious, repeat violation situations. Like people that refuse to stop drinking and driving; the ones that just keep doing it over and over. Even then, I'm willing to talk about options in the grand scheme of things like ignition interlock systems (actually not even available to many repeat offenders in my state)

by dazc 5y ago

shkkmo 5y ago

I've been yelled multiple times this last year for crossing the road...at a stop light when I had a "walk" light. I always treat cars as if they are trying to kill me, but the levels of callous disregard for the safety and wellbeing of other road users seems like it has reached new highs. I think we need to get much more proactive about revoking licenses. I am also heavily considering getting a dashcam to start recording and reporting violators.

guitarbill 5y ago
The police won't do anything, unless you get hit. But having a "dashcam" while walking is something I'd recommend. Some cyclists already do it. With that, at least in the worse cases, you'd have great evidence it was the driver's fault. Not having that uncertainty in an otherwise their-word-against-your-word situation should also make it easier to press charges or get insurance to pay.
P_I_Staker 5y ago
As much as I understand that sentiment. I don't think license restrictions are a very good idea, except in really egregious cases. It would be nice to see in really extreme cases where pedestrians / bikers are disregarded in a really callous manor, but unfortunately I'm not sure the police see many clearcut cases of this. Taking away licenses is not a clean and easy thing in the US, because you basically make someone the ward of someone else, or an outlaw. People can't get by without vehicles, and much of the time they just have to risk it. Best case scenario someone else has to babysit them. I definitely agree we need to make it easier for people to get by without their cars. I just can't stomach making people second class citizens, which is what these laws do. I'm only in favor of them in really egregious, repeat violation situations. Like people that refuse to stop drinking and driving; the ones that just keep doing it over and over. Even then, I'm willing to talk about options in the grand scheme of things like ignition interlock systems (actually not even available to many repeat offenders in my state)