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I was assuming that to make a point. The actual subpixel order can either be retrieved by an appropriate API (if available) or be provided by the user (display

I was assuming that to make a point. The actual subpixel order can either be retrieved by an appropriate API (if available) or be provided by the user (display settings). Point being, subpixels don't usually overlap on the same area, which is what's grayscale's assumption. I agree that if subpixel order is not known, then grayscale is a sane default.

user-the-name 5y ago
If your stroke is 7 subpixels wide, it will be, for instance, RGBRGBR. That has three Rs, two Gs, and two Bs. That is 50% more red light than blue or green. That is tinted red, no matter how you look at it. Subpixel antialiasing does distort colours. That is just a physical fact. The only reason it works at all is that on average, it will even out to a uniform white. But in the details, it will not. Especially around straight vertical edges.
- steerablesafe 5y ago
  That's a very naive and wrong way to do subpixel-AA. Roughly, to calculate the light intensity of a red subpixel, you must also take into account the red light intensity around a whole pixel area around that subpixel, centered on that subpixel. There are better filters to use here, this would be a box filter, which is 1-pixel wide.
  - user-the-name 5y ago
    No, it is not. It is the physically correct way to do it. 50% more red light is emitted than blue or green. That is a red tint. Your eyes aren't going to see that as anything other than a red-tinted line. That is what you will see. Sub-pixel antialiased text looks like it has colourful fringes. People see this. It is not in their imagination. It actually is there, and it is exactly because of sub-pixel antialiasing.
    - Firadeoclus 5y ago
      >No, it is not. It is the physically correct way to do it. 50% more red light is emitted than blue or green. That is a red tint. That is a red tint. And that's why it's not the correct way to do it. A subpixel antialiased white line that is seven subpixels wide, on a black background, should not produce (8-bit RGB triplets): 0-0-0, 255-255-255, 255-255-255, 255-0-0.
      - user-the-name 5y ago
        Then that means you can not render full white.
        BlueTemplar 5y ago
        Full brightness white is supposed to be reserved for light sources anyway, definitely not text background !
    - kaba0 5y ago
      I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with any of you as I don’t have enough knowledge on the topic, but what you say would effectively mean that there is no other possible color besides RGB, which is technically true, but is a nigh useless distinction as color blending is a real phenomenon that happens to human vision. In this way, subpixel hinting, while a hack with quite a few tradeoffs, just hijacks color blending used for producing color normally on your screen for sharper fonts.
      - user-the-name 5y ago
        > but what you say would effectively mean that there is no other possible color besides RGB It would not at all mean that? I don't know why you would think it means that. All I am saying is that a if you draw a vertical line 7 subpixels wide, the light it emits will not add up to white. This is a simple physical fact. To make it easier to imagine, think of a one subpixel wide vertical line. It will be either pure red, pure green or pure blue depending on position. In no way will that ever look white.

user-the-name 5y ago

If your stroke is 7 subpixels wide, it will be, for instance, RGBRGBR. That has three Rs, two Gs, and two Bs. That is 50% more red light than blue or green. That is tinted red, no matter how you look at it. Subpixel antialiasing does distort colours. That is just a physical fact. The only reason it works at all is that on average, it will even out to a uniform white. But in the details, it will not. Especially around straight vertical edges.

steerablesafe 5y ago
That's a very naive and wrong way to do subpixel-AA. Roughly, to calculate the light intensity of a red subpixel, you must also take into account the red light intensity around a whole pixel area around that subpixel, centered on that subpixel. There are better filters to use here, this would be a box filter, which is 1-pixel wide.
- user-the-name 5y ago
  No, it is not. It is the physically correct way to do it. 50% more red light is emitted than blue or green. That is a red tint. Your eyes aren't going to see that as anything other than a red-tinted line. That is what you will see. Sub-pixel antialiased text looks like it has colourful fringes. People see this. It is not in their imagination. It actually is there, and it is exactly because of sub-pixel antialiasing.
  - Firadeoclus 5y ago
    >No, it is not. It is the physically correct way to do it. 50% more red light is emitted than blue or green. That is a red tint. That is a red tint. And that's why it's not the correct way to do it. A subpixel antialiased white line that is seven subpixels wide, on a black background, should not produce (8-bit RGB triplets): 0-0-0, 255-255-255, 255-255-255, 255-0-0.
    - user-the-name 5y ago
      Then that means you can not render full white.
      - BlueTemplar 5y ago
        Full brightness white is supposed to be reserved for light sources anyway, definitely not text background !
  - kaba0 5y ago
    I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with any of you as I don’t have enough knowledge on the topic, but what you say would effectively mean that there is no other possible color besides RGB, which is technically true, but is a nigh useless distinction as color blending is a real phenomenon that happens to human vision. In this way, subpixel hinting, while a hack with quite a few tradeoffs, just hijacks color blending used for producing color normally on your screen for sharper fonts.
    - user-the-name 5y ago
      > but what you say would effectively mean that there is no other possible color besides RGB It would not at all mean that? I don't know why you would think it means that. All I am saying is that a if you draw a vertical line 7 subpixels wide, the light it emits will not add up to white. This is a simple physical fact. To make it easier to imagine, think of a one subpixel wide vertical line. It will be either pure red, pure green or pure blue depending on position. In no way will that ever look white.