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Well, imagine your next work laptop to be a phone. It connects wirelessly to a display, which is paired to a keyboard and mouse. Still not seeing the point? P

by y4mi 5y ago

Well, imagine your next work laptop to be a phone. It connects wirelessly to a display, which is paired to a keyboard and mouse. Still not seeing the point? People are either gonna love or hate it. Love because of how little space it requires or hate because the performance is gonna be worse then even the non pro versions of the surface.

pjmlp 5y ago
Like Windows Phone and Samsung DEX.
oblio 5y ago
This was the dream for a long time (sans the wireless part, but that's not a blocker), see Ubuntu Phone and several other attempts. I wonder when we'll be there. For sure we're not there for wireless, yet. It's unreliable, especially if you have a lot of wireless devices around.
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nine_k 5y ago
If it could work in a pinch, that already would be valuable for some users.
Hjfrf 5y ago
If people are spending 1500 on a phone rather than 750 each on laptop/phone, the performance isn't necessarily worse. That's the real killer feature.
- rbanffy 5y ago
  OTOH, if you spend 750 on each and one breaks, it's only 750 to replace it.
fsflover 5y ago
Why use a virtualized Linux on proprietary Android if you can use native Linux phone with all free drivers and desktop OS? https://puri.sm/products/librem-5 https://puri.sm/products/librem-5
- rbanffy 5y ago
  You can have a good phone with a good virtualized OS you you can have a not-that-good phone with a good OS.
- Barrin92 5y ago
  to be blunt because the librem is an awful phone. The battery life is miserable, the UI is terrible, and the performance isn't great either. It feels five years behind at the price that's higher than the pixel 6. A mid-range Xiaomi phone is better than the Librem 5 and costs four times less.
  - fsflover 5y ago
    These are all software issues, which are being worked on: https://teddit.net/r/Purism/comments/sqbml6/is_librem_5_good_yet/ https://teddit.net/r/Purism/comments/sqbml6/is_librem_5_good... Also, it will receive software updates forever unlike any other phone.
    - Saris 5y ago
      Am I reading the website right that it has 3GB of RAM and 32GB of eMMC storage? There's no way that has the RAM or IO performance to run general desktop programs.
    - Barrin92 5y ago
      It's not just software issues. It's a 1200$ phone with 30 gigs of drive space, 3 gigs of ram and a 720×1440 screen. not to mention, from the thread you linked: "About 2600 L5's have been delivered, so everyone who ordered before October 2017 should have gotten their phones. Purism reportedly just got in another 1100 L5's from the factory, so when those get shipped out, that should cover the orders up to mid-2018." I mean you can't be serious. People paid almost a grand to wait four years for a phone?
rbanffy 5y ago
> It connects wirelessly to a display, which is paired to a keyboard and mouse. When you add the display, battery, keyboard and mouse, it's really cheap to add brains and storage and build a full laptop that can share data with your phone. This is why most lapdocks fail - they aren't that much less expensive than a cheap laptop. This is also why, at some point, nobody was making dedicated terminals for large computers - they were as expensive to build as PCs.
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mark_l_watson 5y ago
That is what I want. In addition to a docking station in my office, I would like iPhone <—> iTV style interop in the living room, and compatible kiosk style support in public areas like airports, airlines, office buildings, etc.

by y4mi 5y ago

pjmlp 5y ago

Like Windows Phone and Samsung DEX.

oblio 5y ago

This was the dream for a long time (sans the wireless part, but that's not a blocker), see Ubuntu Phone and several other attempts. I wonder when we'll be there. For sure we're not there for wireless, yet. It's unreliable, especially if you have a lot of wireless devices around.

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nine_k 5y ago

If it could work in a pinch, that already would be valuable for some users.

Hjfrf 5y ago

If people are spending 1500 on a phone rather than 750 each on laptop/phone, the performance isn't necessarily worse. That's the real killer feature.

rbanffy 5y ago
OTOH, if you spend 750 on each and one breaks, it's only 750 to replace it.

fsflover 5y ago

Why use a virtualized Linux on proprietary Android if you can use native Linux phone with all free drivers and desktop OS? https://puri.sm/products/librem-5 https://puri.sm/products/librem-5

rbanffy 5y ago
You can have a good phone with a good virtualized OS you you can have a not-that-good phone with a good OS.
Barrin92 5y ago
to be blunt because the librem is an awful phone. The battery life is miserable, the UI is terrible, and the performance isn't great either. It feels five years behind at the price that's higher than the pixel 6. A mid-range Xiaomi phone is better than the Librem 5 and costs four times less.
- fsflover 5y ago
  These are all software issues, which are being worked on: https://teddit.net/r/Purism/comments/sqbml6/is_librem_5_good_yet/ https://teddit.net/r/Purism/comments/sqbml6/is_librem_5_good... Also, it will receive software updates forever unlike any other phone.
  - Saris 5y ago
    Am I reading the website right that it has 3GB of RAM and 32GB of eMMC storage? There's no way that has the RAM or IO performance to run general desktop programs.
  - Barrin92 5y ago
    It's not just software issues. It's a 1200$ phone with 30 gigs of drive space, 3 gigs of ram and a 720×1440 screen. not to mention, from the thread you linked: "About 2600 L5's have been delivered, so everyone who ordered before October 2017 should have gotten their phones. Purism reportedly just got in another 1100 L5's from the factory, so when those get shipped out, that should cover the orders up to mid-2018." I mean you can't be serious. People paid almost a grand to wait four years for a phone?

rbanffy 5y ago

> It connects wirelessly to a display, which is paired to a keyboard and mouse. When you add the display, battery, keyboard and mouse, it's really cheap to add brains and storage and build a full laptop that can share data with your phone. This is why most lapdocks fail - they aren't that much less expensive than a cheap laptop. This is also why, at some point, nobody was making dedicated terminals for large computers - they were as expensive to build as PCs.

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mark_l_watson 5y ago

That is what I want. In addition to a docking station in my office, I would like iPhone <—> iTV style interop in the living room, and compatible kiosk style support in public areas like airports, airlines, office buildings, etc.