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Add this to the list of how hard it is to break the Silicon Valley (and their political allies) hegemony. Not only do you have AWS, App Store bans, email provi
by cloutchaser 5y ago
Add this to the list of how hard it is to break the Silicon Valley (and their political allies) hegemony.
Not only do you have AWS, App Store bans, email provider bans (mail chimp banned babylonbee for a while although claimed it was algorithmic), you also have to contend with building a product that is going to be attacked by hackers the second you are moderately successful.
The only fair player I can see in this is cloudflare, at least they have some sort of principle of being an infrastructure provider and not siding with a certain political side.
- lettergram 5y agoYou sure about cloudflare? https://techcrunch.com/2017/08/17/cloudflare-ceo-calls-for-a-system-to-regulate-hateful-internet-content/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/08/17/cloudflare-ceo-calls-for-a...
- cloutchaser 5y agoI am aware of this one and I think it’s an interesting case. I think 99% of people wouldn’t have an issue with this and stormfront probably does have people actually breaking the law. I also think it’s interesting how prince basically said - this is the ceo making a personal decision in the shower. That honesty was good, and at least it showed that prince was torn about it and admitted this is very hard and he will try and be an infrastructure provider in the future. This is much better than the coordinated attack of a faceless bureaucracy of tech companies like with Parler
- Ekaros 5y agoWhat I really hope is that we torn down 230 protection with these decisions. You stop providing service based on choice. You are fully responsible for everything else. Make it fair free market to play. No more discrimination on anything. Only court orders to take down stuff.
- FDSGSG 5y agoYou understand that you're arguing against the existence of moderated forums like HN, right? Why do you believe that it should be made impractical for sites like HN to exist?
- Ekaros 5y agoSmall price to pay. Sometimes we have to accept some losses for freedom.
- FDSGSG 5y ago"Some losses". You're essentially advocating for ending all moderation on the internet. No more forums, no more IRC networks, no more facebook groups or subreddits either. I guess that'll also kill or heavily cripple much of multiplayer gaming. I guess everybody needs to learn to be okay with spam too? What's the big win here? You can already run your own censorship-free sites without forcing your shit down everybody elses throats. Turns out, most people don't want that.
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- 0des 5y agoModeration of a public forum is censorship
- FDSGSG 5y agoSure, why not? Who cares? People come to HN specifically because of the censorship. Some censorship is good, some censorship isn't.
- 0des 5y agoAcross the span of time, all censorship is bad. If you live long enough, youll eventually find that your closest held beliefs might not be what you once thought they were.