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Interesting that "Tech bro" here is defined in terms of their relation to the classic nerd archetype. I agree there are way less classic nerds - I don't meet t

Interesting that "Tech bro" here is defined in terms of their relation to the classic nerd archetype. I agree there are way less classic nerds - I don't meet too many devs these days that run linux or are really into sci-fi. But I also see hardly any tech bros. What I do see a lot of is a certain kind of "socially conscious" programmer. You know the kind - they love codes of conduct, they have cushy jobs but are super eager to tell you about how things work "under capitalism", they enjoy chatting on discord and probably don't know how to connect to IRC, they have a Mac, etc etc. Is there a good derisive term for them?

zozbot234 5y ago
Being "socially conscious" in a strictly political sense does not excuse one from dudebro status (or dudette, as the case may be). Especially when their political stance happens to be so clearly lacking in internal consistency, as in someone worrying about the supposed negatives of "capitalism" but not doing anything to effectively address them, even while working for a stereotypical "tech" business.
- whatshisface 5y ago
  It's not lacking in internal consistency at all. People engage in political discourse Lite™ to demonstrate that they read the right books, or that they follow smart people twitter. It's another form of fashion, and when you take it farther than that it's seen in a negative light, especially in professional contexts.
  - LAC-Tech 5y ago
    Ah interesting! I didn't realise it was an unwritten rule that you don't take it too far. I feel Eliza Doolittle learning the etiquette and norms of my social betters.
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  - zozbot234 5y ago
    > to demonstrate that they read the right books, or that they follow smart people twitter Sure, but that's pretty much by definition a dudebro mindset.
    - whatshisface 5y ago
      I'm not entirely confident in the idea of concatenating two words for male to describe a behavior that is not exclusive to either gender. It doesn't make a lot of sense to do that.
superdisk 5y ago
I've heard them called soydevs before.
- LAC-Tech 5y ago
  Ah that's a punchy term! Yes I encounter way more "soydevs" than "techbros".
sangnoir 5y ago
> Is there a good derisive term for them? I've heard a few, but they don't seem to stick: for a while, Social Justice Warrior was in vogue, and lately, I'm seeing a bunch of variants of woke, which I imagine are spoken italicized to signify vitriol and/or contempt. Edit: I had forgotten cuck - though that's broader, and would be used as a derisive to all persona non grata not just the nerds.
- stirfish 5y ago
  Cuck is a little more specific. A cuckold is someone who spends resources raising someone else's offspring. It's the other end of the derisive term "welfare queen".
- serial_dev 5y ago
  The sjw, woke, c*ck are general labels, not tech specific (and some are too explicit). I laughed at the soydev in the sibling comment.
kbenson 5y ago
I think most the original techbros are in management now. I always assumed the label was derived from the huge influx of people into CS in the late 90's and very early 2000's because of the dot-com boom. I know there were a lot of people at my school at that time that seemed like they would have been in business or finance classes if not for the obscene money they saw thrown around by internet companies when in highschool or before choosing a major. I mean, that's a valid choice and people are going to choose careers based on money, but if that ends up wildly changing the makeup of the people commonly in that career, you can expect the people that went into it for interest in the work to come up with some salty nicknames for those they see as interlopers.
actually_a_dog 5y ago
What exactly is the problem with codes of conduct, critiquing capitalism, chatting on Discord, and using a Mac? Why the derision?
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- LAC-Tech 5y ago
  We were discussing derisive names for stereotypes in tech.
  - actually_a_dog 5y ago
    Yes, why the derision? Why is there anything to deride about any of those things?
    - LAC-Tech 5y ago
      IDK, why the derision for techbros? Or hipsters? Or anything else?

zozbot234 5y ago

Being "socially conscious" in a strictly political sense does not excuse one from dudebro status (or dudette, as the case may be). Especially when their political stance happens to be so clearly lacking in internal consistency, as in someone worrying about the supposed negatives of "capitalism" but not doing anything to effectively address them, even while working for a stereotypical "tech" business.

whatshisface 5y ago
It's not lacking in internal consistency at all. People engage in political discourse Lite™ to demonstrate that they read the right books, or that they follow smart people twitter. It's another form of fashion, and when you take it farther than that it's seen in a negative light, especially in professional contexts.
- LAC-Tech 5y ago
  Ah interesting! I didn't realise it was an unwritten rule that you don't take it too far. I feel Eliza Doolittle learning the etiquette and norms of my social betters.
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- zozbot234 5y ago
  > to demonstrate that they read the right books, or that they follow smart people twitter Sure, but that's pretty much by definition a dudebro mindset.
  - whatshisface 5y ago
    I'm not entirely confident in the idea of concatenating two words for male to describe a behavior that is not exclusive to either gender. It doesn't make a lot of sense to do that.

superdisk 5y ago

I've heard them called soydevs before.

LAC-Tech 5y ago
Ah that's a punchy term! Yes I encounter way more "soydevs" than "techbros".

sangnoir 5y ago

> Is there a good derisive term for them? I've heard a few, but they don't seem to stick: for a while, Social Justice Warrior was in vogue, and lately, I'm seeing a bunch of variants of woke, which I imagine are spoken italicized to signify vitriol and/or contempt. Edit: I had forgotten cuck - though that's broader, and would be used as a derisive to all persona non grata not just the nerds.

stirfish 5y ago
Cuck is a little more specific. A cuckold is someone who spends resources raising someone else's offspring. It's the other end of the derisive term "welfare queen".
serial_dev 5y ago
The sjw, woke, c*ck are general labels, not tech specific (and some are too explicit). I laughed at the soydev in the sibling comment.

kbenson 5y ago

I think most the original techbros are in management now. I always assumed the label was derived from the huge influx of people into CS in the late 90's and very early 2000's because of the dot-com boom. I know there were a lot of people at my school at that time that seemed like they would have been in business or finance classes if not for the obscene money they saw thrown around by internet companies when in highschool or before choosing a major. I mean, that's a valid choice and people are going to choose careers based on money, but if that ends up wildly changing the makeup of the people commonly in that career, you can expect the people that went into it for interest in the work to come up with some salty nicknames for those they see as interlopers.

actually_a_dog 5y ago

What exactly is the problem with codes of conduct, critiquing capitalism, chatting on Discord, and using a Mac? Why the derision?

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LAC-Tech 5y ago
We were discussing derisive names for stereotypes in tech.
- actually_a_dog 5y ago
  Yes, why the derision? Why is there anything to deride about any of those things?
  - LAC-Tech 5y ago
    IDK, why the derision for techbros? Or hipsters? Or anything else?