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What is the slur „techbro“ supposed to refer to? That one of the founders is whiter than average and his parents were not poor, thus all his success obviously

What is the slur „techbro“ supposed to refer to? That one of the founders is whiter than average and his parents were not poor, thus all his success obviously comes from one of his many priviledges, nevermind any hard work, determination etc? (Note: am not white myself, I just prefer to judge people on their merit)

alephxyz 5y ago
Where in the blog post did you see anything about "techbro" referring to a white person? Or anything about race in general?
- pessimizer 5y ago
  Sometimes people eager to complain accidentally tell on themselves.
- Bancakes 5y ago
  GPT-3 posting hours
stirfish 5y ago
Techbro is a mindset, not a socio-economic class. It's like the nerd version of an instagram influencer. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Techbro https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Techbro
- axiosgunnar 5y ago
  I see, that makes sense, thanks!
- actually_a_dog 5y ago
  Then, why are the vast majority of the images of people in Google image search results for "techbro" or "tech bro" white men? Serious question. https://www.google.com/search?q=techbro&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjqjb2ik_71AhVhI0QIHW00A6cQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1152&bih=580&dpr=2.5 https://www.google.com/search?q=techbro&source=lnms&tbm=isch... https://www.google.com/search?q=tech+bro&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwih5qHalP71AhUjJEQIHWFHDlcQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1152&bih=580&dpr=2.5 https://www.google.com/search?q=tech+bro&source=lnms&tbm=isc...
  - woodruffw 5y ago
    > Then, why are the vast majority of the images of people in Google image search results for "techbro" or "tech bro" white men? Serious question. For the same reason that an image search for "successful CEO" shows white men. Google's results are both a reflection and amplification of any input biases.
    - actually_a_dog 5y ago
      Sure. Google returns what's out there, and people put stuff out there that reflects their biases. But, the claim was that "techbro" was wrongly being conflated with "white man." In this case, we're talking precisely about these biases. These image search results seem to be evidence against that claim.
  - bdcravens 5y ago
    A number of those images are from the TV show Silicon Valley, a show satirizing the industry. Similar search in Google images also tend to match various stereotype (basketball player, hotel housekeeping, etc). Google will generally reflect what's on the Internet.
    - actually_a_dog 5y ago
      Right, and the fact that there is a popular TV show depicting such a stereotype is some amount of evidence that the original claim that "tech bro" and "white man" are wrongly conflated is wrong. Search "tech bro" -tv -hbo and you get similar results: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22tech+bro%22+-tv+-hbo&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiWm77F1f71AhXQGjQIHSF8CqAQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=%22tech+bro%22+-tv+-hbo&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQA1C4CFjcEGCPFGgAcAB4AIABswGIAZAGkgEDMS41mAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=VgQKYpaYGdC10PEPofipgAo&bih=581&biw=1151 https://www.google.com/search?q=%22tech+bro%22+-tv+-hbo&tbm=... If anything, especially on the first page, the images get a little whiter when you add -tv -hbo to the search string.
      - bdcravens 5y ago
        Sure, but the bigger point is that Google is merely showing what the Internet reflects, which in general reflects society. Like when you search for "hotel housekeeper" or something positive like "CEO".
- LAC-Tech 5y ago
  Interesting that "Tech bro" here is defined in terms of their relation to the classic nerd archetype. I agree there are way less classic nerds - I don't meet too many devs these days that run linux or are really into sci-fi. But I also see hardly any tech bros. What I do see a lot of is a certain kind of "socially conscious" programmer. You know the kind - they love codes of conduct, they have cushy jobs but are super eager to tell you about how things work "under capitalism", they enjoy chatting on discord and probably don't know how to connect to IRC, they have a Mac, etc etc. Is there a good derisive term for them?
  - zozbot234 5y ago
    Being "socially conscious" in a strictly political sense does not excuse one from dudebro status (or dudette, as the case may be). Especially when their political stance happens to be so clearly lacking in internal consistency, as in someone worrying about the supposed negatives of "capitalism" but not doing anything to effectively address them, even while working for a stereotypical "tech" business.
    - whatshisface 5y ago
      It's not lacking in internal consistency at all. People engage in political discourse Lite™ to demonstrate that they read the right books, or that they follow smart people twitter. It's another form of fashion, and when you take it farther than that it's seen in a negative light, especially in professional contexts.
      - LAC-Tech 5y ago
        Ah interesting! I didn't realise it was an unwritten rule that you don't take it too far. I feel Eliza Doolittle learning the etiquette and norms of my social betters.
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xwolfi 5y ago
techbro just means a guy who's an asshole :D

alephxyz 5y ago

Where in the blog post did you see anything about "techbro" referring to a white person? Or anything about race in general?

pessimizer 5y ago
Sometimes people eager to complain accidentally tell on themselves.
Bancakes 5y ago
GPT-3 posting hours

stirfish 5y ago

Techbro is a mindset, not a socio-economic class. It's like the nerd version of an instagram influencer. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Techbro https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Techbro

axiosgunnar 5y ago
I see, that makes sense, thanks!
actually_a_dog 5y ago
Then, why are the vast majority of the images of people in Google image search results for "techbro" or "tech bro" white men? Serious question. https://www.google.com/search?q=techbro&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjqjb2ik_71AhVhI0QIHW00A6cQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1152&bih=580&dpr=2.5 https://www.google.com/search?q=techbro&source=lnms&tbm=isch... https://www.google.com/search?q=tech+bro&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwih5qHalP71AhUjJEQIHWFHDlcQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1152&bih=580&dpr=2.5 https://www.google.com/search?q=tech+bro&source=lnms&tbm=isc...
- woodruffw 5y ago
  > Then, why are the vast majority of the images of people in Google image search results for "techbro" or "tech bro" white men? Serious question. For the same reason that an image search for "successful CEO" shows white men. Google's results are both a reflection and amplification of any input biases.
  - actually_a_dog 5y ago
    Sure. Google returns what's out there, and people put stuff out there that reflects their biases. But, the claim was that "techbro" was wrongly being conflated with "white man." In this case, we're talking precisely about these biases. These image search results seem to be evidence against that claim.
- bdcravens 5y ago
  A number of those images are from the TV show Silicon Valley, a show satirizing the industry. Similar search in Google images also tend to match various stereotype (basketball player, hotel housekeeping, etc). Google will generally reflect what's on the Internet.
  - actually_a_dog 5y ago
    Right, and the fact that there is a popular TV show depicting such a stereotype is some amount of evidence that the original claim that "tech bro" and "white man" are wrongly conflated is wrong. Search "tech bro" -tv -hbo and you get similar results: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22tech+bro%22+-tv+-hbo&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiWm77F1f71AhXQGjQIHSF8CqAQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=%22tech+bro%22+-tv+-hbo&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQA1C4CFjcEGCPFGgAcAB4AIABswGIAZAGkgEDMS41mAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=VgQKYpaYGdC10PEPofipgAo&bih=581&biw=1151 https://www.google.com/search?q=%22tech+bro%22+-tv+-hbo&tbm=... If anything, especially on the first page, the images get a little whiter when you add -tv -hbo to the search string.
    - bdcravens 5y ago
      Sure, but the bigger point is that Google is merely showing what the Internet reflects, which in general reflects society. Like when you search for "hotel housekeeper" or something positive like "CEO".
LAC-Tech 5y ago
Interesting that "Tech bro" here is defined in terms of their relation to the classic nerd archetype. I agree there are way less classic nerds - I don't meet too many devs these days that run linux or are really into sci-fi. But I also see hardly any tech bros. What I do see a lot of is a certain kind of "socially conscious" programmer. You know the kind - they love codes of conduct, they have cushy jobs but are super eager to tell you about how things work "under capitalism", they enjoy chatting on discord and probably don't know how to connect to IRC, they have a Mac, etc etc. Is there a good derisive term for them?
- zozbot234 5y ago
  Being "socially conscious" in a strictly political sense does not excuse one from dudebro status (or dudette, as the case may be). Especially when their political stance happens to be so clearly lacking in internal consistency, as in someone worrying about the supposed negatives of "capitalism" but not doing anything to effectively address them, even while working for a stereotypical "tech" business.
  - whatshisface 5y ago
    It's not lacking in internal consistency at all. People engage in political discourse Lite™ to demonstrate that they read the right books, or that they follow smart people twitter. It's another form of fashion, and when you take it farther than that it's seen in a negative light, especially in professional contexts.
    - LAC-Tech 5y ago
      Ah interesting! I didn't realise it was an unwritten rule that you don't take it too far. I feel Eliza Doolittle learning the etiquette and norms of my social betters.
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xwolfi 5y ago

techbro just means a guy who's an asshole :D