Cloudflare is already more insidious to me than Google was at the point you mention. Cloudflare pretends they're not the hosting provider of their customers but

Cloudflare is already more insidious to me than Google was at the point you mention. Cloudflare pretends they're not the hosting provider of their customers but a neutral ISP in between which is of course ridiculous because their customers pay them money to host content (even if temporary) on CF servers so it can be accessible online through CF IP ranges. Where the ultimate source of content lies is an implementation detail and irrelevant for anyone looking to, for example, file DMCA claims. As an example, my partner has written a free story and published it on one website, where it was then copied onto a different website by a third party where it's being sold, with much of the content already accessible. Filing DMCA claims is hopeless as Cloudflare will only (pretend to) forward the complaint to the "actual" owner and hoster of the website, with no guarantees about deliverability or anything. Here's the kicker! Even if you somehow manage to reach the "actual" hosting provider and they kick the offending party off their servers, that party can transparently migrate to another host and Cloudflare will even cache their pages for them until they are up again. See no evil, hear no evil, blatantly ignore established laws with weasel words indeed. The fact that they are getting away with it is ridiculous. It would take an actual lawsuit with a huge investment in time and money to challenge the status quo. I know we could never bring meaningful legal action to them. Not to mention Cloudflare seeing no moral issues with hosting sites such as KF who take joy in bullying people until suicide. Hey eastdakota, jgrahamc, I'd love to see you actually respond to this in good faith.