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If people in a region need protection services I am sure they will figure out a way to pay for it. Otherwise said service may not be really that important. If y

by sfe22 5y ago

If people in a region need protection services I am sure they will figure out a way to pay for it. Otherwise said service may not be really that important. If you worry about not getting 100% of people to pay without coercion and threatening taking their freedom to move, good news, even now over 50 percent of Americans don’t pay taxes or pay a tiny amount. The interested parties will take care of it easy.

sofixa 5y ago
And those who can't afford to pay for their ambulances and fire departments and roads and schools, fuck 'em, right? It's their fault for being poor, they should try harder. Libertarians are funny people. It boggles my mind how anyone can be clueless or compassionless enough to be one.
- sfe22 5y ago
  In a free market it will be unlikely to have many poor people, as they will see the reality and settle where they are truly productive. Parents care about their children (even if you don’t think so) and reliable education will be offered to them. Fire department can be arranged by neighborhoods, nobody wants their house burning down, or very high insurance payments. Remember how much resources governments waste, they will all get cheaper, how much they tax, people will get way richer. And yes, I believe everyone will be better off with free markets, otherwise i’d be a commie too. It’s not that I don’t care about others. I care more than most do. I see they working jobs that are not necessary, or governments destroying their purchasing power. Fortunately I am doing pretty well, even with after the money government takes, and if I was evil or not compassionate I wouldn’t advocate for change, but rather take advantage of current system and move to the side that benefits from peoples diminished value of work. It would be way easier for me.
  - sofixa 5y ago
    > In a free market it will be unlikely to have many poor people, as they will see the reality and settle where they are truly productive That's a very wild claim, unsubstantiated by anything. The history of industrial revolution shows otherwise ( regular people are exploited to death until some regulations come to stop the most rampant abuses). Do you have anything to support your case? > And yes, I believe everyone will be better off with free markets, otherwise i’d be a commie too. So for you there's only communism and absolute free markets? So you're in the clueless libertarian case. Considering the freeish markets available today fail miserably at correcting for externalities such as pollution and climate change, how do you imagine absolutely free ones would do so?

by sfe22 5y ago

sofixa 5y ago

And those who can't afford to pay for their ambulances and fire departments and roads and schools, fuck 'em, right? It's their fault for being poor, they should try harder. Libertarians are funny people. It boggles my mind how anyone can be clueless or compassionless enough to be one.

sfe22 5y ago
In a free market it will be unlikely to have many poor people, as they will see the reality and settle where they are truly productive. Parents care about their children (even if you don’t think so) and reliable education will be offered to them. Fire department can be arranged by neighborhoods, nobody wants their house burning down, or very high insurance payments. Remember how much resources governments waste, they will all get cheaper, how much they tax, people will get way richer. And yes, I believe everyone will be better off with free markets, otherwise i’d be a commie too. It’s not that I don’t care about others. I care more than most do. I see they working jobs that are not necessary, or governments destroying their purchasing power. Fortunately I am doing pretty well, even with after the money government takes, and if I was evil or not compassionate I wouldn’t advocate for change, but rather take advantage of current system and move to the side that benefits from peoples diminished value of work. It would be way easier for me.
- sofixa 5y ago
  > In a free market it will be unlikely to have many poor people, as they will see the reality and settle where they are truly productive That's a very wild claim, unsubstantiated by anything. The history of industrial revolution shows otherwise ( regular people are exploited to death until some regulations come to stop the most rampant abuses). Do you have anything to support your case? > And yes, I believe everyone will be better off with free markets, otherwise i’d be a commie too. So for you there's only communism and absolute free markets? So you're in the clueless libertarian case. Considering the freeish markets available today fail miserably at correcting for externalities such as pollution and climate change, how do you imagine absolutely free ones would do so?