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Metabase is what you're looking for. https://metabase.com/ https://metabase.com/

allan_s 5y ago
metabase is pretty nice, and their "x-ray" features that generates a lot of different visualisation is a clever way to get started and to have example to iterate on.
robertlagrant 5y ago
That looks great, but AGPL makes everyone nervous.
- FridgeSeal 5y ago
  You’re not building against their code, you’re just using the end product, why would AGPL matter here at all?
- indymike 5y ago
  Curious more than anything. If your intent is to use the tool as opposed to importing the tool as a feature or product, is the AGPL a problem? Also, "everyone nervous" is an interesting choice of words - I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't really care one way or the other. What is it about AGPL that causes stress among the masses?
  - heavyset_go 5y ago
    > Also, "everyone nervous" is an interesting choice of words - I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't really care one way or the other. What is it about AGPL that causes stress among the masses? Things like Google's AGPL internal policy[1] existing as a public piece of corporate-friendly IP propaganda have snowballed into a lot of FUD about the license. People like to parrot perceived and secondhand opinions about the AGPL, and "some companies don't like the AGPL" transformed into "the AGPL makes everyone nervous." [1] https://opensource.google/documentation/reference/using/agpl-policy https://opensource.google/documentation/reference/using/agpl...
  - robertlagrant 5y ago
    Fair point. Clarifications: no, using the tool directly is not a problem for us. "Everyone" - appreciate your question and not guessing :-) I meant everyone at my company. That phrasing maybe speaks to my mindset :-D Basically I really mean legal and those in charge who might listen to legal over tech.
- heavyset_go 5y ago
  They have a commercial license, but just using an AGPL product doesn't mean you must AGPL your project.
dillondoyle 5y ago
We use it and or staff are able to get at least a bit of value without knowing sql. but i still have to write most things or create a template they can copy and paste. the visual builder still relies on knowing fundamentally what a db is, what a join is. like mega obvious stuff that actually isn't obvious to non technical people. we area also multi tenent and it's not the best for that. like the default permissions when you add a db are broad, the organization of dashboards, questions, etc is not great. through different versions they have re organized and stuffed things oddly. i've also messed up the elastic beanstalk a few times. i am not even close to an expert on aws so might just be me being stupid. probably worth just paying for their service in the end..
- dgb23 5y ago
  My experience is that these kind of tools have an interesting positive effect, if they are well made (and metabase seems to be): There are maybe 1/10-1/5 or maybe more who will be enabled by them on a technical level. The same kind of people who will build a site out of WP themes and plugins or build quite involved spreadsheets and so on. I think it’s generally important and useful to enable and respect power users like that. They occupy a unique niche.

metabase is pretty nice, and their "x-ray" features that generates a lot of different visualisation is a clever way to get started and to have example to iterate on.

robertlagrant 5y ago

That looks great, but AGPL makes everyone nervous.

FridgeSeal 5y ago
You’re not building against their code, you’re just using the end product, why would AGPL matter here at all?
indymike 5y ago
Curious more than anything. If your intent is to use the tool as opposed to importing the tool as a feature or product, is the AGPL a problem? Also, "everyone nervous" is an interesting choice of words - I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't really care one way or the other. What is it about AGPL that causes stress among the masses?
- heavyset_go 5y ago
  > Also, "everyone nervous" is an interesting choice of words - I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't really care one way or the other. What is it about AGPL that causes stress among the masses? Things like Google's AGPL internal policy[1] existing as a public piece of corporate-friendly IP propaganda have snowballed into a lot of FUD about the license. People like to parrot perceived and secondhand opinions about the AGPL, and "some companies don't like the AGPL" transformed into "the AGPL makes everyone nervous." [1] https://opensource.google/documentation/reference/using/agpl-policy https://opensource.google/documentation/reference/using/agpl...
- robertlagrant 5y ago
  Fair point. Clarifications: no, using the tool directly is not a problem for us. "Everyone" - appreciate your question and not guessing :-) I meant everyone at my company. That phrasing maybe speaks to my mindset :-D Basically I really mean legal and those in charge who might listen to legal over tech.
heavyset_go 5y ago
They have a commercial license, but just using an AGPL product doesn't mean you must AGPL your project.

dillondoyle 5y ago

We use it and or staff are able to get at least a bit of value without knowing sql. but i still have to write most things or create a template they can copy and paste. the visual builder still relies on knowing fundamentally what a db is, what a join is. like mega obvious stuff that actually isn't obvious to non technical people. we area also multi tenent and it's not the best for that. like the default permissions when you add a db are broad, the organization of dashboards, questions, etc is not great. through different versions they have re organized and stuffed things oddly. i've also messed up the elastic beanstalk a few times. i am not even close to an expert on aws so might just be me being stupid. probably worth just paying for their service in the end..

dgb23 5y ago
My experience is that these kind of tools have an interesting positive effect, if they are well made (and metabase seems to be): There are maybe 1/10-1/5 or maybe more who will be enabled by them on a technical level. The same kind of people who will build a site out of WP themes and plugins or build quite involved spreadsheets and so on. I think it’s generally important and useful to enable and respect power users like that. They occupy a unique niche.