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It died and became political when mozilla started to pick it, wich predates 2006, no matter what that dude says, dated papers proves it

steveklabnik 5y ago
"That dude" is the person who created it, so he would know. And if you knew him at all or followed Rust's development at all or even just read some of his comments on reddit when this topic comes up, you'd know that you were wrong: https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/450zy7/comment/czuixjc/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/450zy7/comment/czuixj... > The Rust CoC has been in place since day one. [...] I wrote it before releasing any code, before even agreeing to work on such a project for Mozilla.
- mlindner 5y ago
  Doesn't matter when it was added. It was still a poor idea and remains so today. The "CoC phase" will be a thing we look back to being a transient period of oddness in the software industry. CoCs are weapons used by the privileged against the unprivileged.
- Shadonototra 5y ago
  > The Rust project was originally conceived in 2010 (depending on how you count, you might even say 2006!) as a Mozilla Research project https://blog.rust-lang.org/2020/08/18/laying-the-foundation-for-rusts-future.html https://blog.rust-lang.org/2020/08/18/laying-the-foundation-... Who is a liar? that dude or mozilla? or both?
  - steveklabnik 5y ago
    The "you might even say 2006" links to Graydon (aka 'that dude')'s initial commits. There's no discrepancy here. The Rust Project, aka the whole apparatus around developing Rust, started at Mozilla in 2010. The language was a personal project for just Graydon before that. They're two related but distinct things, and you could argue "Rust" started at either of them, depending on in what sense you mean. That Graydon started Rust on his own in 2006 is not disputed by anyone with knowledge of the facts, including the very post you linked. You also in your original comment said Mozilla picked it before 2006, which is also impossible and simply incorrect.

steveklabnik 5y ago

"That dude" is the person who created it, so he would know. And if you knew him at all or followed Rust's development at all or even just read some of his comments on reddit when this topic comes up, you'd know that you were wrong: https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/450zy7/comment/czuixjc/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/450zy7/comment/czuixj... > The Rust CoC has been in place since day one. [...] I wrote it before releasing any code, before even agreeing to work on such a project for Mozilla.

mlindner 5y ago
Doesn't matter when it was added. It was still a poor idea and remains so today. The "CoC phase" will be a thing we look back to being a transient period of oddness in the software industry. CoCs are weapons used by the privileged against the unprivileged.
Shadonototra 5y ago
> The Rust project was originally conceived in 2010 (depending on how you count, you might even say 2006!) as a Mozilla Research project https://blog.rust-lang.org/2020/08/18/laying-the-foundation-for-rusts-future.html https://blog.rust-lang.org/2020/08/18/laying-the-foundation-... Who is a liar? that dude or mozilla? or both?
- steveklabnik 5y ago
  The "you might even say 2006" links to Graydon (aka 'that dude')'s initial commits. There's no discrepancy here. The Rust Project, aka the whole apparatus around developing Rust, started at Mozilla in 2010. The language was a personal project for just Graydon before that. They're two related but distinct things, and you could argue "Rust" started at either of them, depending on in what sense you mean. That Graydon started Rust on his own in 2006 is not disputed by anyone with knowledge of the facts, including the very post you linked. You also in your original comment said Mozilla picked it before 2006, which is also impossible and simply incorrect.