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Very happy to see this pass. It's idiotic that kids, while going to school, can be exposed to multiple tobacco ads that make tobacco appear as "cool" and "hip"

by kenty 5y ago

Very happy to see this pass. It's idiotic that kids, while going to school, can be exposed to multiple tobacco ads that make tobacco appear as "cool" and "hip" and "desirable". These ads obviously work or else no company would do them. The arguments used by the "No" lobby are: * slippery slope of meat and alcohol being banned in advertizing; when meat is not even a drug (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope). * free market disruption; when smoking is obviously a harmful substance and this law applies to all of the competing tobacco companies. * little events like festivals, bars, and shops get less money; this is probably true but festivals can simply raise their prices a bit. For small owner-led shops, yes, less tobacco consumption => less sales and tobacco is a high-margin product. It's a great example of direct democracy sometimes leading to better political decisions. It's easier for big tobacco to buy off just the legislators (whom actually made an extremely toned down counterproposal) than all of the public.

nix23 5y ago
>as "cool" and "hip" and "desirable" Like redbull aka sugar?
- kenty 5y ago
  In general, two wrongs don't make a right. Additionally for the given example: orange juice contains as much sugar as redbull, a cup of coffee as much (or even more, depending on the type) caffeine and the rest (Taurin, etc...) probably has no effect on the body at all.
  - nix23 5y ago
    >In general, two wrongs don't make a right. No one said that, but you don't have pictures of destroyed livers on wine-bottles, of a rotten feet on sweets, strong alcohol is getting cheaper and cheaper, a bottle of vodka was 25sFr around 2000, now you can get it for 7-8sFr..but no one talks about that. >a cup of coffee as much (or even more, depending on the type) caffeine I quote yourself: >In general, two wrongs don't make a right. >the rest (Taurin, etc...) probably has no effect on the body at all https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citric_acid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citric_acid and Sugar a dentist wet dream ;)

by kenty 5y ago

nix23 5y ago

>as "cool" and "hip" and "desirable" Like redbull aka sugar?

kenty 5y ago
In general, two wrongs don't make a right. Additionally for the given example: orange juice contains as much sugar as redbull, a cup of coffee as much (or even more, depending on the type) caffeine and the rest (Taurin, etc...) probably has no effect on the body at all.
- nix23 5y ago
  >In general, two wrongs don't make a right. No one said that, but you don't have pictures of destroyed livers on wine-bottles, of a rotten feet on sweets, strong alcohol is getting cheaper and cheaper, a bottle of vodka was 25sFr around 2000, now you can get it for 7-8sFr..but no one talks about that. >a cup of coffee as much (or even more, depending on the type) caffeine I quote yourself: >In general, two wrongs don't make a right. >the rest (Taurin, etc...) probably has no effect on the body at all https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citric_acid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citric_acid and Sugar a dentist wet dream ;)