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Been with the same company for ~10 years. Am now making roughly 50k (EUR) more than when I started. Probably no the answer you were looking for, but it's worked

by elric 5y ago

Been with the same company for ~10 years. Am now making roughly 50k (EUR) more than when I started. Probably no the answer you were looking for, but it's worked out pretty well for me.

tyingq 5y ago
If you started at €100k, you'll get to €150k in 10 years with a 4 percent raise per year. But that's not particularly stellar if you assume 2-3% annual inflation :)
- elric 5y ago
  Good luck getting a consistent 4% raise over 10 years when starting out at 100k. Virtually zero software engineers (in Belgium) are on 100k/year.
  - jokethrowaway 5y ago
    My main client has its main office in Belgium and I'm charging roughly 200k/y (while living in a cheaper European country). I used to think I was pushing the limit when I was working in the UK as an individual contributor and started working with US companies (which I don't recommend, terrible SJW culture and insane workload). Eventually I found European companies are happy to pay as well, you just need to find the right circle and sell your skills well. I agree it's not as easy as the states and there are a bunch of "bean-counting" roles in Europe. At the same time, you're not living in the states which is a big pro, if you ask me. If you're looking for something better with a similar climate, quality of life but way more money maybe you should try the north side of Switzerland. Also, you could have probably done better with job hopping every 2 years, that seems to be the norm to maximise salary raises. When you job hob you try to aim for a 20% raise which probably beats getting 5k every year at your current job.
    - elric 5y ago
      If you're charging 200k, you're not an employee. Contractors are a different breed entirely, with their own woes and vagaries.
  - discobot2 5y ago
    FANGs now hire remote workers and pay much, much more than 100k.
    - avinassh 5y ago
      Which all FAANGs hire remote now? I thought they all had requirements of office
      - elric 5y ago
        Was approached by Amazon and Google somewhat recently, they both wanted me to relocate to Dublin. Perhaps FAN hire for 100% remote, but AG don't seem to.

by elric 5y ago

Been with the same company for ~10 years. Am now making roughly 50k (EUR) more than when I started. Probably no the answer you were looking for, but it's worked out pretty well for me.

tyingq 5y ago

If you started at €100k, you'll get to €150k in 10 years with a 4 percent raise per year. But that's not particularly stellar if you assume 2-3% annual inflation :)

elric 5y ago
Good luck getting a consistent 4% raise over 10 years when starting out at 100k. Virtually zero software engineers (in Belgium) are on 100k/year.
- jokethrowaway 5y ago
  My main client has its main office in Belgium and I'm charging roughly 200k/y (while living in a cheaper European country). I used to think I was pushing the limit when I was working in the UK as an individual contributor and started working with US companies (which I don't recommend, terrible SJW culture and insane workload). Eventually I found European companies are happy to pay as well, you just need to find the right circle and sell your skills well. I agree it's not as easy as the states and there are a bunch of "bean-counting" roles in Europe. At the same time, you're not living in the states which is a big pro, if you ask me. If you're looking for something better with a similar climate, quality of life but way more money maybe you should try the north side of Switzerland. Also, you could have probably done better with job hopping every 2 years, that seems to be the norm to maximise salary raises. When you job hob you try to aim for a 20% raise which probably beats getting 5k every year at your current job.
  - elric 5y ago
    If you're charging 200k, you're not an employee. Contractors are a different breed entirely, with their own woes and vagaries.
- discobot2 5y ago
  FANGs now hire remote workers and pay much, much more than 100k.
  - avinassh 5y ago
    Which all FAANGs hire remote now? I thought they all had requirements of office
    - elric 5y ago
      Was approached by Amazon and Google somewhat recently, they both wanted me to relocate to Dublin. Perhaps FAN hire for 100% remote, but AG don't seem to.