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I admit I have no first hand experience about the US part, but I read a lot of stories about rural or even city infrastructure in the US and oftentimes can't he

I admit I have no first hand experience about the US part, but I read a lot of stories about rural or even city infrastructure in the US and oftentimes can't help but think that in a lot of countries I grew up as being labeled 3rd world/developing countries the infrastructure is of significantly better quality. So sometimes I am not sure how much of the US is (in parts) a developing country in disguise? And from 1st hand experience I can only say that I have to come to that conclusion for parts of Germany (where I am from and living). There are big-ish areas in Germany where you can't call emergency services from a mobile phone as there is not one carrier servicing these areas. If you happen to have an emergency there - good luck. But as only a few people live there it doesn't make economic sense to service these areas and build the necessary infrastructure for the service provider companies. So these areas go unserved.

ChuckNorris89 5y ago
To be fair, Germany is Europe's worst offender when it comes to digital infrastructure, which is laughable for Europe's richest country. Even poor Eastern European villages do better sometimes.
- 6510 5y ago
  Germany 100 mbps 46.92 $ Ukraine 100 mbps 6.19 $ Romania 1 Gbps 8.84 $ Ukraine 1 Gbps 10.11 $ 10 * (46.92 / 8.84) = 53 population Germany vs Romania: 83.24 m / 19.2 m = 4.34 size: 357.386 km2 / 238.397 km2 = 1.5 /* Insert economy of scale joke here */
  - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
    >Insert economy of scale joke here More like German political corruption that guarantees telecoms' monopolies to milk customers with expensive shitty offers, rather than a free market with healthy competition like in Eastern Europe. Also, didn't some German politician say "There's no way to make money with the internet so why bother with infrastructure investments?" LMAO
    - 6510 5y ago
      I find it a fascinating sector and like to compare it to drinking water, electricity, sewage, roads, trains, dykes, rivers etc that all require enormous mind boggling contraptions that we managed to successfully plan, build and use at affordable rates. I'm sort of offended that people seem to have forgotten what an accomplishment our ancestors made there.
- sdoering 5y ago
  I did not want to punch the easy target with digital infrastructure. Our 100 MBit includes satellite TV and telephone flatrate for 30 € per month. Still not in the range of other countries, but at least significantly cheaper than the big players in Germany. It is provided by our municipal telephone, gas, electricity provider. With really good customer service thrown in (compared to the crap of the big corporations at least)

ChuckNorris89 5y ago

To be fair, Germany is Europe's worst offender when it comes to digital infrastructure, which is laughable for Europe's richest country. Even poor Eastern European villages do better sometimes.

6510 5y ago
Germany 100 mbps 46.92 $ Ukraine 100 mbps 6.19 $ Romania 1 Gbps 8.84 $ Ukraine 1 Gbps 10.11 $ 10 * (46.92 / 8.84) = 53 population Germany vs Romania: 83.24 m / 19.2 m = 4.34 size: 357.386 km2 / 238.397 km2 = 1.5 /* Insert economy of scale joke here */
- ChuckNorris89 5y ago
  >Insert economy of scale joke here More like German political corruption that guarantees telecoms' monopolies to milk customers with expensive shitty offers, rather than a free market with healthy competition like in Eastern Europe. Also, didn't some German politician say "There's no way to make money with the internet so why bother with infrastructure investments?" LMAO
  - 6510 5y ago
    I find it a fascinating sector and like to compare it to drinking water, electricity, sewage, roads, trains, dykes, rivers etc that all require enormous mind boggling contraptions that we managed to successfully plan, build and use at affordable rates. I'm sort of offended that people seem to have forgotten what an accomplishment our ancestors made there.
sdoering 5y ago
I did not want to punch the easy target with digital infrastructure. Our 100 MBit includes satellite TV and telephone flatrate for 30 € per month. Still not in the range of other countries, but at least significantly cheaper than the big players in Germany. It is provided by our municipal telephone, gas, electricity provider. With really good customer service thrown in (compared to the crap of the big corporations at least)