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The bar has to be a little higher than that. I can go to any protest and shout, "Kill the President." At a minimum, I have to have the intent of following throu

The bar has to be a little higher than that. I can go to any protest and shout, "Kill the President." At a minimum, I have to have the intent of following through, otherwise I'm just some loud nutjob at somebody else's protest. Even then, I'm attempting a coup. Everyone else is still just protesting. The nature of their actions is not changed by my presence there. Maybe Jan. 6 still clears that bar. I don't know enough of the details to say that it doesn't.

CamperBob2 5y ago
The bar has to be a little higher than that. OK, it became a coup attempt the moment someone shouted "Hang Mike Pence!" at a riot where some people built a gallows, some people roved around inside the building carrying Tasers and handcuffs, and some other people brought firearms, ammunition, and IEDs. But I imagine you'll just move the bar^H^H^Hgoalposts again, because that's what Trump apologists are good at. Meanwhile, holy shit, imagine if those people really had been the BLM and Antifa agitators that the Republicans tried so desperately to tell us they were. Maybe Jan. 6 still clears that bar. I don't know enough of the details to say that it doesn't On the off chance that's true, I would say that this is an excellent time to start paying attention to what's going on. Again, we have about 10 years, give or take, going by the example of the Beer Hall Putsch.
- Stupulous 5y ago
  If you don't want people "moving the goalposts", don't set them up at the 40-yard line, where they very apparently do not go. You are bringing a lot of vitriol to the table, unprompted. A personal failing is that I can't help but respond, but I am able to leave it at that.
  - CamperBob2 5y ago
    There's no room left in the middle, sorry. You can't stay there.
    - Stupulous 5y ago
      What does this mean? It's catchy, but what mechanism exists where a political position can run out of room? The space is defined by the number of inhabitants.

CamperBob2 5y ago

The bar has to be a little higher than that. OK, it became a coup attempt the moment someone shouted "Hang Mike Pence!" at a riot where some people built a gallows, some people roved around inside the building carrying Tasers and handcuffs, and some other people brought firearms, ammunition, and IEDs. But I imagine you'll just move the bar^H^H^Hgoalposts again, because that's what Trump apologists are good at. Meanwhile, holy shit, imagine if those people really had been the BLM and Antifa agitators that the Republicans tried so desperately to tell us they were. Maybe Jan. 6 still clears that bar. I don't know enough of the details to say that it doesn't On the off chance that's true, I would say that this is an excellent time to start paying attention to what's going on. Again, we have about 10 years, give or take, going by the example of the Beer Hall Putsch.

Stupulous 5y ago
If you don't want people "moving the goalposts", don't set them up at the 40-yard line, where they very apparently do not go. You are bringing a lot of vitriol to the table, unprompted. A personal failing is that I can't help but respond, but I am able to leave it at that.
- CamperBob2 5y ago
  There's no room left in the middle, sorry. You can't stay there.
  - Stupulous 5y ago
    What does this mean? It's catchy, but what mechanism exists where a political position can run out of room? The space is defined by the number of inhabitants.