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For that conclusion, wouldn't you need to show that the USA has a higher rate of shoplifting and also a higher rate of incarcerated shoplifters per capita?
by bitshiftfaced 5y ago
For that conclusion, wouldn't you need to show that the USA has a higher rate of shoplifting and also a higher rate of incarcerated shoplifters per capita?
- tomlockwood 5y agoMy conclusion is only that the harsher punishment button has, overall, already been pushed in America. This isn't an argument about shoplifting specifically.
- bitshiftfaced 5y agoOut of curiosity, I pulled up 73 countries that list prisoners per capita as well as theft per capita. There wasn't any meaningful correlation.
- tomlockwood 5y agoI didn't really expect there to be a correlation.
- bitshiftfaced 5y agoYour argument presupposed that those who want harsher punishments do so because punishment is tied to crime per capita. If the two are unrelated, then it may be that people want harsher punishments anyway just as you don't want harsher punishments anyway.
- tomlockwood 5y ago> Your argument presupposed that those who want harsher punishments do so because punishment is tied to crime per capita. What? No.